As a new member of International Skeptics Forum, I'd like to start by saying I'm in wholehearted agreement with those who are skeptical about Covid-19.
The Covid Plague seems like the greatest, (and most extraordinarily-documented, both anecdotally and otherwise), fiction ever produced
'Covid doesn't exist'.
And I've heard a rumor that deaths attributed to cancer and heart disease have been reported to have gone down as those attributed to Covid have gone up, which seems suspicious, but consider me to be a conspiracy nut, because I don't have a link to provide, even if it were allowed.
'Covid doesn't exist, and deaths from cancer and heart disease have gone down'.
A heathy immune system does not make one impervious to disease, and even older people with diabetes and heart problems can have healthy immune systems, and these people VERY RARELY DIE OF COVID.
The great majority whose lives may be shortened by hours or days by CV-19 are those with very advanced stages of cancer, heart disease or other terminal illnesses.
'Covid exists, and people can die from it. Many people with cancer and heart disease have died, and Covid can contribute to those deaths'.
Tom Palven, this is what happens when you get your ideas from CT sites. The claims contradict each other. Then you get into a mess like this, when you trot out what you've been told to say, on a forum where all your posts are visible, so the contradictions are clear for all to see.
This is why members here are advising you to get your information from more reliable sources, and to check the evidence provided. You will then have a better understanding, and will not fall prey to dishonest and manipulative narratives from the likes of David Icke and RFK jr. You'll also be happier: these sites operate by working people into a state of fear and anger, which stops them being able to process reasoned argument.
Here's a list of claims about the Covid vaccines. Perhaps you could indicate which ones you believe,what evidence led you to that belief, and how you reconcile the contradictions?
The vaccines contain microchips, so Bill Gates can track and/or control us.
The vaccines will kill everyone instantly. (Note how these two cannot both be true).
The vaccines will kill us in a few months or years.
(Contradicts the previous two claims).
The vaccines are untested.
The vaccines will alter your DNA.
(If they haven't been tested, how do they know they will alter DNA? Contradiction again).
The vaccines are Satanic.
Covid doesn't exist.
Covid was bio-engineered.
(Again, can't both be true).
The Evil Them want to depopulate the earth.
The Evil Them are exaggerating the death toll: no-one is dying, and the hospitals are empty.
This being a sceptics' forum, the idea here is to examine your beliefs, and consider how you arrived at your conclusions. With CTs, the basic choice is 'evidence or emotion'? Which is yours?