The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

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portlandatheist said:
She's backpedaling but she is using completely squishy language while doing so: "9/11 did happen" and "school shootings are real" but what she isn't saying is that a plane did hit the pentagon or that the Parkland school shooting was not a false flag and so on and always plays the role of the victim.
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Exactly. She's carefully couching her words to appear like she's taking back her claims when she's actually not.
 
It is interesting finding out more about a future POTUS and first white female President.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
How many of your negative predictions have come true in the last year?

Trump is out.
He left DC.
You haven't had a correct prediction that I recall.

Now you say the Senate will move Q-ward while the vote in the House to support Cheney demonstrates the crazies are not in the majority even in the House.

I see a race between (fake ;) ) news coverage that ironically over-represents the crazies and draws a lot of smaller donors, and the big donors who stay in the shadows and don't favor the QAnons. It's always about the money.
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The majority of Republicans voted to keep Greene on her committee assignments - only 11 voted against her. That's hardly a damning indictment of her and her views.

On the contrary, the ovation she got from her GOP colleagues seemed to be a ringing endorsement of her.

The vote to support Liz Cheney was a secret vote, the vote to endorse Greene was a public one. IMO that's a clear indication as to the opinion of the GOP as to the leaning of their support. If you want the support of the GOP rank and file, you cannot be critical of QAnon.

Regarding my predictions regarding President Trump, you're right I was far to pessimistic about his ability to remain in post. OTOH I completely failed to predict the armed attack on the Capitol so maybe it's not safe to say that everything in the garden is rosy.
 
shemp said:
But we also need to add the Jewish space lasers.

"Gentlefolk given the plea for unity can’t we strive for unity and agree to say she is a “Snivelling bat-**** crazy cowardly lying hypocritical anti-semitic conspiratard"?
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Let me right now suggest a plan B: Once this gets too long (maybe already has, I see there are numerous posts still ahead of me), could we just abbreviate to something like "ultimate tosser"?

Hans
 
Stacyhs said:
Romans were incredibly tolerant of other religions. They allowed them to remain as long as they recognized the emperor as a god, too. That was the problem behind their intolerance of Christians: they refused to do so.
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Until they became Christian yes, the Romans were tolerant and would add or ignore religions from around the Empire. Their pantheon was huge.

Mithraism was incorporated and was very popular with the Legions. It was the contender alongside Christianity to become the single 'official' religion and seems to have had some of it's aspects incorporated anyway.
 
Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets

@mtgreenee
Thank you to the real Republicans who stood with me today!
Every single one of you will be remembered.

I'll be holding a press conference tomorrow at 11 AM. See you there.

RT if you still have @realDonaldTrump’s back!
 
The Don said:
The majority of Republicans voted to keep Greene on her committee assignments - only 11 voted against her. That's hardly a damning indictment of her and her views...
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Over 74 million Americans wanted four more years of donald trump. Other than the national race, the Republican Party did pretty well in the 2020 elections. The problem is -- the real problem -- is a sizeable segment of the American public supports these people, shares their views, thinks their way.

If you asked the gentlefolk of the Republican Party -- the average rank-and-file -- is it possible a Jewish space laser started the fires in California? I'm sure many if not most would stare for a second then shrug. "Yes it's probably possible, sure. I don't really know." I think that's the best you'd get from the average GOPer.

Maybe Jordan Klepper should ask them. ;)
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Until they became Christian yes, the Romans were tolerant and would add or ignore religions from around the Empire. Their pantheon was huge.

Mithraism was incorporated and was very popular with the Legions. It was the contender alongside Christianity to become the single 'official' religion and seems to have had some of it's aspects incorporated anyway.
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Indeed. In fact they had a very enlightened (pragmatic) view on other religions that I wish more modern religions would adopt eg 'Oh you worship the goddess Sulis, what's she the goddess of? Uh-huh, yeah that sounds just like our goddess Minerva, must be the same one, we just have different names for her - I mean we speak a different language after all. Let's just call her Sulis-Minerva and crack on.'

For an atheist, it's bizarre to see the various Abrahmic religions at eachothers throats when they're essentially the same thing - one supreme being that they just have a different name for and some cultural differences in worship (yes I know I'm over-simplifying)...from there it's not even a stretch to compare to various pagan religions: 'What, one god only? Oh he has a son...oh and super-powered angels and saints and stuff. Yeah I guess that's just like ours, after all Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Dagda etc are the top guy and then the lesser gods are either their kids* or basically like your angels etc. and Pluto, Hel, Surtur etc they're your devils and demons.'

*I mean, it's no stretch to see Jesus with a hammer - he was a carpenter after all!

ETA I believe the Babylonian mythos was er, 'heavily borrowed' from in Christianity as well.
 
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Guess which isa the real quote.

“I never said any of these things since I have been elected for Congress. These were words of the past, and these things do not represent me.”

“The Terrible Things I Have Said and Done My Entire Life, and Right Up Until a Few Days Ago, Do Not Represent Me As a Person”
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
Would that be a re-created or resurgence situation? Lutheran Church seems to have "invented" it based on Luther's "The Jews and their Lies".
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Luther set the seed, I agree, but Jews were still defined by religion, not race. The racial aspect came after the development of race theory and nationalism in the later 19th Century. The Vatican actually made the distinction : religious anti-semitism was in, political anti-semitism was out. (That was principally about Austria, which of course was at the heart of the development.)

And I don't claim to know enough to say if that would even be the oldest example of institutional widespread antisemitism.
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The Spanish Inquisition was earlier, for one.
 
Stacyhs said:
Romans were incredibly tolerant of other religions. They allowed them to remain as long as they recognized the emperor as a god, too.
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The Romans were inclusive but intolerant - anyone could become a Roman if they conformed to Roman ways, which included honouring Rome's gods.
That was the problem behind their intolerance of Christians: they refused to do so.
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The later cults were subject to spasmodic repression just like Christianity (which was just another cult, or set of cults, for the first two centuries). It's notable that when Constantine adopted it as a potential unifying force the first thing he did was organise a council to precisely define it (so quintessentially Roman), and the first result of that council was persecution of Arian Christianity.
 
My prediction: RTG will say something stupid in under a week, and she will be defended by various GOP members with the following:

1. It's not what she said,
2. It's not what she meant,
3. But the Democrats said....
 
CapelDodger said:
Luther set the seed, I agree, but Jews were still defined by religion, not race. The racial aspect came after the development of race theory and nationalism in the later 19th Century. The Vatican actually made the distinction : religious anti-semitism was in, political anti-semitism was out. (That was principally about Austria, which of course was at the heart of the development.)

The Spanish Inquisition was earlier, for one.
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Yeah, but nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
 
TheSupermeerkat said:
My prediction: RTG will say something stupid in under a week, and she will be defended by various GOP members with the following:

1. It's not what she said,
2. It's not what she meant,
3. But the Democrats said....
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Don't forget "I didn't personally hear what she said so I can't comment on it"

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I'm wondering how long Kevin McCarthy gets away with claiming ignorance of Qanon ("can't even pronounce it".) I suspect that will now be the official response of the No-Nothing QOP.
 
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She thanked the Dems this morning for removing her from the committees, which would have been a waste of her time. And declared that the GOP belongs to Trump and Trump alone.
 
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