Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha
 
Do you not know HCQ is proven safe.... taken weekly for Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis, and taken weekly for preventing malaria in the tropics, where it is dispensed without a doctors prescription because it is common and safe ?

By now it is probably thousands of doctors agreeing it should be made available. Over a thousand are in America's Frontline Doctors.

Lupus and Arthritis are not COVID-19.

You are a layman. You lack the knowledge to second-guess doctors who are actively working on people with the disease. Do you really think that if it worked as well as the buffoons making these claims say it does that they wouldn't all be using it right now?

Or are you going to launch into another CT about EVERY DOCTOR ON EARTH being part of a conspiracy not to use the drug?

The drug exists. The drug can be ordered by hospitals at will. If they want to use it they can.
 
Lupus and Arthritis are not COVID-19.

You are a layman. You lack the knowledge to second-guess doctors who are actively working on people with the disease. Do you really think that if it worked as well as the buffoons making these claims say it does that they wouldn't all be using it right now?

Or are you going to launch into another CT about EVERY DOCTOR ON EARTH being part of a conspiracy not to use the drug?

The drug exists. The drug can be ordered by hospitals at will. If they want to use it they can.

Of course there's this: Recycled, remixed and reset cement-headed CT.

HQC has never been shown effective for treatment of COVID-19 in any blinded gold-standard, placebo-controlled study. Ever.

CANE.
 
Lupus and Arthritis are not COVID-19.

You are a layman. You lack the knowledge to second-guess doctors who are actively working on people with the disease.


Nonsense. Dont try to make it about me. Trust the thousands of doctors and 150+ studies. If you watched the brief video you saw that the odds analysis reached 1 in 6 trillion in favor of the 153 HCQ studies. Argue with the math if you wish.

Months ago I posted here 22 studies supporting HCQ, from the CDC site. Were you one of those sneering at the 100+ doctors behind those studies? Now with 153 HCQ studies (as of Dec) there must be thousands of doctors for uninformed clowns to sneer at. Not to mention the 1000+ Frontline Doctors.


Do you really think that if it worked as well as the buffoons making these claims say it does that they wouldn't all be using it right now?


Big pharma shenanigans as usual, since forever. In the case of Covid, Fauci is in on it. He knew NIH found HCQ effective on Corona in 2005. Follow the $. He and his wife stand to make money in the vaccine industry. Do some homework.


The fatal (overdosed with HCQ) fraudulent study which Lancet retracted snuffed the HCQ trials program. Thank goodness sensible doctors have carried on.


Or are you going to launch into another CT about EVERY DOCTOR ON EARTH being part of a conspiracy not to use the drug?


Enough with your lame strawmen. Some doctors are afraid, others are courageous. I support the latter. You?


The drug exists. The drug can be ordered by hospitals at will. If they want to use it they can.


True, however not quite. I know a doctor in Calif who would prescribe it but is afraid to. Big Brother is watching. He says some of his doctor friends wont even discuss it. Have your 'sources' not informed you? Fire them today.


California threatened doctors months ago with disciplinary action if they prescribed HCQ 'off standards' or whatever the language was.

Look it up.


The Frontline Doctors are now prescribing it via telemed. Maybe you should hurry and report them to Rachel Maddow or your man Fauci. (he already knows)
 
CANE.

HQC has never been shown effective for treatment of COVID-19 in any blinded gold-standard, placebo-controlled study. Ever.

CANE.
 
Or you could have simply written down what the argument was.


I did.

I said it was about how so many states or cities reported 33 new cases, and other instances of 33. Like "33 new cases bring the total up to 99 new cases". 99 being 3X33.

With other instances in covid reporting there were about 55 total where 33 was prominent.

Ive known about their pet number 33 for decades, and seen endless instances of how it appears in certain issues. To someone else, its just irrelevant, mere coincidence. Same goes for their pet number 19.5, which is popular with NASA.
 
Speaking of the lockdown scam....

Now that the joke of a W H O has admitted the tests make false positives, how far above 99.5% do you estimate the corrected survival rate really is now?

Note: Dont forget the positive tests were already inflated by other factors including:

* Every motorcycle or traffic or homicide or scuba or you-name-it accidental death that came with a positive test result is recorded as 'Death by Covid'

* Every Covid patient tested multiple times racks up that many more positives.

* Doctors being told to record "Death by Covid" no matter what co-morbidities.

* Doctors being told to (unprecedented) assume covid as cause of death.

I'm guessing it above 99.5% in all categories. Whats your informed guess at the actual survival rate now?
 
The so called conspiracy theory about covid is that the NWO crowd/secret societies clowns are behind the lockdown scam.

Nope scientists are using lockdowns to save people's lives.

You are just another Qanon cult follower in a country where 430,000 people have died because you supported a clown called Trump.


Why would anyone believe you, a Qanon cult member?
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Speaking of the lockdown scam....

Now that the joke of a W H O has admitted the tests make false positives, how far above 99.5% do you estimate the corrected survival rate really is now?

Note: Dont forget the positive tests were already inflated by other factors including:

* Every motorcycle or traffic or homicide or scuba or you-name-it accidental death that came with a positive test result is recorded as 'Death by Covid'

* Every Covid patient tested multiple times racks up that many more positives.

* Doctors being told to record "Death by Covid" no matter what co-morbidities.

* Doctors being told to (unprecedented) assume covid as cause of death.

I'm guessing it above 99.5% in all categories. Whats your informed guess at the actual survival rate now?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
 
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Every motorcycle or traffic or homicide or scuba or you-name-it accidental death that came with a positive test result is recorded as 'Death by Covid'

List your top ten evidence examples of this happening.......unless you simply made this story up, as per usual.
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Speaking of the lockdown scam....

Now that the joke of a W H O has admitted the tests make false positives, how far above 99.5% do you estimate the corrected survival rate really is now?

Note: Dont forget the positive tests were already inflated by other factors including:

* Every motorcycle or traffic or homicide or scuba or you-name-it accidental death that came with a positive test result is recorded as 'Death by Covid'
* Every Covid patient tested multiple times racks up that many more positives.

* Doctors being told to record "Death by Covid" no matter what co-morbidities.

* Doctors being told to (unprecedented) assume covid as cause of death.

I'm guessing it above 99.5% in all categories. Whats your informed guess at the actual survival rate now?

Cite for this please. And I don't mean the source from which you copied the claim, I mean an original one that establishes the truth of it. You do know the difference, right? (And anything resembling "do your own homework" is a coward's copout- the request is for you to show that you've done any beyond just mindlessly repeating what you need to believe)
 
I know a doctor in Calif who would prescribe it (Hydroxychloroquine) but is afraid to.

Not even for Malaria patients? He must be a terrible doctor......or you simply made this story up, as per usual. :eek:

"Hydroxychloroquine (also known as hydroxychloroquine sulfate) is an arthritis medicine that also can be used to prevent malaria. It is available in the United States by prescription only. It is sold under the brand name Plaquenil ."
https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf

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Cement-headed COVID denier plays pretend doctor and epidemiologist.

Sovereign citizen tries to remove elderly Covid 19 patient from hospital

I wonder what the Venn diagram overlap looks like between sov-cit whackjobs, COVID deniers, and Q-nuts?
 
Not even for Malaria patients? He must be a terrible doctor......or you simply made this story up, as per usual. :eek:

"Hydroxychloroquine (also known as hydroxychloroquine sulfate) is an arthritis medicine that also can be used to prevent malaria. It is available in the United States by prescription only. It is sold under the brand name Plaquenil ."
https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf

Now Oklahoma is trying to unload $2M of the stuff, which they uselessly bought for use against COVID-19 to please the dim-witted, incompetent Donald Trump. Of course, Trump received about a million dollars worth of socialized (taxpayer-funded, government-mandated, government-provided) medical treatment, none of which involved HCQ, nor injecting any kind of disinfectant, nor shining UV light into his flabby body. He was provided actual medicine, not the idiot pseudoscience he bleated out and his suckers eagerly lapped up.
 
Now Oklahoma is trying to unload $2M of the stuff, which they uselessly bought for use against COVID-19 to please the dim-witted, incompetent Donald Trump. Of course, Trump received about a million dollars worth of socialized (taxpayer-funded, government-mandated, government-provided) medical treatment, none of which involved HCQ, nor injecting any kind of disinfectant, nor shining UV light into his flabby body. He was provided actual medicine, not the idiot pseudoscience he bleated out and his suckers eagerly lapped up.

Former president ***** -his-pants received the best treatment available from medical science which, as you noted, included none of the quackery hawked by the idiot, yet his recalcitrant admirers only remember the moronic snake-oil promoting pressers. They are the very epitome of the bug-eyed rubes lined up to buy a bottle of rot-gut because they lack all discernment; Jesus Christ, no wonder they love My Pillows.
 
Every motorcycle or traffic or homicide or scuba or you-name-it accidental death that came with a positive test result is recorded as 'Death by Covid'
That's a bald faced lie. I'll only go so far as to grant that it wasn't originally your lie. You simply parrot any liar or moron who says anything that props up your need to believe that you are one of the few people on earth smart enough to know what's really going on - just like you knew that Trump was going to spring his brilliant trap to reclaim the stolen election and finally arrest the cannibalistic, pedophile, Satanist, Hollywood elites and Democrats, and free the thousands of children being held in secret pizza-parlor basements before they could be molested, drained of their magical youth juice and sacrificed to Satan by Hillary Clinton. Do you remember that, Bubba? Do you? Surely you must remember that!

I challenge you to find and present cases in which accidental deaths or homicides have been listed as comorbidities.
Then I invite you to return to whatever QAnon affiliated circle-jerk forum you parroted that claim from, and tell the person you copied it from that he/she is a ******* moron, who doesn't even understand what doctors mean when they list comorbidity on a cause of death form. The first I saw of this nonsense came from some quack chiropractor who likes to pretend she's a training medical professional on her Facebook page. But she was too ignorant to understand what every doctor I've talked to has explained - that comorbidity includes things like preexisting medical conditions that make it much easier for COVID19 to kill them, or medical conditions that develop because of COVID19, like pneumonia or lung damage, that contribute to the patient's death.

If someone gets shot and is hospitalized in critical condition, and develops an infection that leads to sepsis, that would be the sort of thing that gets listed as a comorbidity. In such a case, people with no medical knowledge running around saying that the gunshot victim's death wasn't caused by his gunshot wound, but rather a bacterial infection, would be a bunch of ******* idiots.

Every Covid patient tested multiple times racks up that many more positives.

Doctors being told to record "Death by Covid" no matter what co-morbidities.

Doctors being told to (unprecedented) assume covid as cause of death.
Again, prove any of that. Don't just present whatever some idiot hocked up on another forum and expect it to be taken as factual, especially after the last hairball of "truth" you presented turned out to be so embarrassingly wrong. Remember that? Remember how confidently you assured us that we were going to be proved wrong about your Q cult's prophecies?

I'm guessing it above 99.5% in all categories. Whats your informed guess at the actual survival rate now?
You aren't making informed guesses. You're handing us things that other people have pulled from their own rectums. You're too scientifically ignorant and deficient in critical thinking strategies to make any sort of informed speculation.
 
Much easier to pretend you know something than to actually do the work. Getting your science and medical information from the fetid pool known as Facebook virtually guarantees an infection, and its spread.
 
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