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Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Craig4 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/donald-trump-presidency-ending/index.html

Trump is exploding at all the Nixon comparisons. They are unfair. Nixon actually managed to accomplish something. This stupid bitch could do nothing but **** up. Trump, the only people dumber than him are his followers.
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The griftiest grifter to ever hold the office, Diaper Don's minions still send him money; some of them actually <snicker> still believe he'll somehow remain in office. You can't feel sorry for them after hearing that.
 
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Bubba said:
Project Veritas does great work exposing corruption ! (as usual)
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Hopefully you realize that because of Project Veritas' abysmal record of being... truthful in their claims and videos, you're just embarrassing yourself, right?



Mader Levap said:
Nope. He is doing copy&paste of usual nutty conspiracy drivel typical of alt-rightwing "sources". No original thought beside "just waaait, this time. yes, THIS time for reasies real, pinky swear and all of that, this will be it!".

I find his flailing about amusing. He will be gone for long time after 20 Jan.
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CT lovers frequently have a habit of just jumping onto the next CT, I think.
 
AJM8125 said:
Yes, just as I've seen the wheels of justice turn against former presidents for their misdeeds, either real or perceived. Seems those misdeeds either wind up as a footnote in a history book, scribbled on a street corner lunatic's protest sign or the modern day equivalent - conspiracy nutter websites.

The difference between them and Trump however is none of those former presidents turned a pack of thugs loose on elected officials who wouldn't give him his way.

History won't be kind to your boy and optimally, neither will his executioner.
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I shudder as to what the hell they are going to put in a Trump Presidential Library. Maybe a replica Donald endless spewing forth the tens of thousands of tweets he sent.
 
Bubba said:
Wrong.

Timing.

You'll see.

Soon.
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I'm rather curious. Consider for a moment the possibility that Biden actually will officially become President and no charges, arrests, or any other things along those lines happen to him. If that happens, how would you react?




Meadmaker said:
Wait. A false false flag? A MAGA pretending to be a BLM pretending to be a MAGA? Like Victor, Victoria, except without the funny?


Meh. He was (allegedly) yelling "Burn it down" during a riot. Throw him in the pen.
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FTFY, by the look of it. I think that it's worth noting something simple, though. Bubba pretty obviously gleefully tried to point at the guy as a leftist agitator, then, once it was pointed out that he was a plant, reacted with a "good to see that there are good guy plants in BLM." Not much introspection there, I think.
 
Bubba said:
Not at all. The opposite is the case.





Who wants a battle anyway?

Trump is the good guy painted bad by your 'sources' and traitors in govt.

The bad guys already lost.
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There's already been one battle. One American (the police officer) and four enemy combatants have already died. Trump can't get what he wants legally and you've seen the willingness of the National Guard and police forces to fight. Trump can't win without another battle.
 
Bubba said:
Black Lives Matter Activist Who Stormed Capitol on Jan. 6 Charged


https://www.theepochtimes.com/black...dium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-14-4
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The Intercept: John Sullivan, Who Filmed Shooting of Ashli Babbitt in Capitol, Detained on Federal Charges

Once again, the side that screams "false flag" at everything they see, falls for it when it actually happens.

At the same time, left-wing organizers have been keen to stress that they ejected Sullivan from their ranks months ago, accusing him of being either a right-wing infiltrator or a dangerously naive amateur.

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Sullivan, who began calling himself “Activist John” last summer when he organized a chaotic protest for racial justice that led Black Lives Matter Utah to denounce him

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When Sullivan went on CNN hours after he left the Capitol to offer witness testimony to the killing of Babbitt, he was introduced, inaccurately, as a “left-wing activist.” That description, and*a subsequent report*from The Deseret News in Utah, which noted that Sullivan faces charges for a protest he organized there in June, at which another protester shot a man, set off a frenzy of speculation about him in right-wing outlets, which incorrectly identified him as “a BLM activist.”
In fact, Sullivan is a curious figure who is treated with suspicion or outright hostility by a number of left-wing organizers associated with Black Lives Matter and antifascism in Utah, California and the Pacific Northwest.
Months before*Sullivan embedded himself in the right-wing mob that broke into Congress,*a racial justice activist in Portland*warned members of the movement*“to not associate with Activist John,” calling him, “deceptive, dangerous and daft.” According to the activist, who goes by the name Gila on Twitter, Sullivan was responsible for dozens of protesters getting arrested at a Portland demonstration in September, because he argued with local activists about the route to take, “and led people down a dark street straight into a police kettle. Even though he had zero knowledge of the area he insisted people follow him and disregarded warnings from security.” Sullivan, the activist wrote, “is living in a fantasy land.”
Activists in Salt Lake City, Seattle and Los Angeles have made similar warnings, and a member of the Seattle protest community shared*a detailed briefing document*on him headlined, “John Sullivan: Naive Organizer or Agent Provocateur?” that has been circulating since November. The anonymous author of that memo also drew attention to the fact that his brother,*James Sullivan, is an outspoken Trump supporter, a member of the far-right “Blexit” campaign to convince Black voters to exit the Democratic Party, and spoke at a Proud Boys rally in Portland.
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Delphic Oracle said:
The Intercept: John Sullivan, Who Filmed Shooting of Ashli Babbitt in Capitol, Detained on Federal Charges

Once again, the side that screams "false flag" at everything they see, falls for it when it actually happens.
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I'm sure the crowds on both sides have more than their fair share of people like that. It sounds like Sullivan is drawn more to chaos and attention seeking than any socio-political convictions.

I'm reminded of a story an FBI psychologist friend told years ago, about a profiler telling law enforcement to photograph the crowds at arson scenes, because the perpetrator would likely by either urinating in his pants or masturbating. So they took photos and found that a large percentage of the gawkers were either peeing themselves or jerking off through their pockets.

Chaos, or the potential for chaos, is a big draw for the extreme weirdos among us.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
Are you now claiming CNN's Anderson Cooper is a commie Antifa networker helping a Proud boy called John Sullivan break into the Capitol?
:crazy:
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McCarthy said the Communists were everywhere.

History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
 
A seriously Trump-enthusiastic outfit called American Thinker just put out this:

“We received a lengthy letter from Dominion's defamation lawyers explaining why they believe that their client has been the victim of defamatory statements. Having considered the full import of the letter, we have agreed to their request that we publish the following statement:

”American Thinker and contributors Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan have published pieces on www.AmericanThinker.com that falsely accuse US Dominion Inc., Dominion Voting Systems, Inc., and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively “Dominion”) of conspiring to steal the November 2020 election from Donald Trump. These pieces rely on discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion’s supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion’s machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently.

“These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims.

“It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error.“

“Having considered the full import of the letter” is a nice way of saying, “Because we don’t want to be sued into bankruptcy for libeling them with insane lies”, but, hey, they published a few paragraphs of truth.
 
Foster Zygote said:
I'm sure the crowds on both sides have more than their fair share of people like that. It sounds like Sullivan is drawn more to chaos and attention seeking than any socio-political convictions.
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I have friends in the Salt Lake City protest community. They shunned him almost immediately. These BLM-style protest movements actually do a good job of preparing candidate protesters to be safe, to avoid illegal or arrestable behavior, to secure their electronic and personal communications, and so forth. Apparently this guy raised all the red flags with them

Chaos, or the potential for chaos, is a big draw for the extreme weirdos among us.
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And I have seen splits in protest communities arise over the level of chaos they're willing to engender or tolerate. As the far-right reports it, however, it's all just "Black Lives Matter" or "Antifa" without further distinction.

I guess some folks have suggested he was trying to infiltrate left-wing protest groups. That may be true; there is certainly evidence to support such a claim. But I think the easier conclusion is that he just wanted to watch the world burn, and he has no actual political conviction either way.
 
Elites in high places

Anderson Cooper *apparently* put Sullivan on CNN without doing any background checking because...


a) Cooper and CNN are incompetent

b) they are disinfo peddlers


Anderson Cooper claims he is no longer in the CIA, and he is a Vanderbilt.
 
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Foster Zygote said:
It sounds like Sullivan is drawn more to chaos and attention seeking than any socio-political convictions.
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by Jay Utah

But I think the easier conclusion is that he just wanted to watch the world burn, and he has no actual political conviction either way.
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No and no....Anderson Cooper putting Sullivan on CNN trumps those ideas.


Bigly.


Sullivan is obviously a COINTELPRO type, a paid pretender working for someone behind the curtain.


This is what they do.
 
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Bubba said:
Anderson Cooper claims he is no longer in the CIA...
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He was never really in the CIA. He interned with the agency for a couple of summers while majoring in Political Science. But of course that's proof that he was the CIA assassin/emissary who negotiated repurchase of the baby blood youth formula from the Reptiloids, right?


...and he is a Vanderbilt.
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That's some astute detective work right there.
 
Bubba said:
Anderson Cooper *apparently* put Sullivan on CNN without doing any background checking because...


a) Cooper and CNN are incompetent

b) they are disinfo peddlers


Anderson Cooper claims he is no longer in the CIA, and he is a Vanderbilt.
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What's your point?
 
Bubba said:
Sullivan is obviously a COINTELPRO type, a paid pretender working for someone behind the curtain.
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An alternative explanation is that Sullivan is a moron.

Of course, that would mean that Anderson Cooper is, at least sometimes, a moron, which I'm sure you would agree is the case.
 
Bubba said:
No and no....Anderson Cooper putting Sullivan on CNN trumps those ideas.


Bigly.


Sullivan is obviously a COINTELPRO type, a paid pretender working for someone behind the curtain.


This is what they do.
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But are 'They' going to be thwarted by the multi-layered plans of a certain very stable genius come next Wednesday? Is Trump going to spring his trap and provide proof that the election was stolen from him - that he really got 85% of the popular vote. Are Biden, Pelosi, Tom Hanks, Mark Cuban and the Pope going to be arrested and led off in chains? Is Trump going to personally lead the elite team to liberate the child holding pens in the bunker under Hillary Clinton's house?

You won't even answer my yes/no question - because you know you'd be committing yourself to something that could embarrass you next week. By staying vague, you can't be called out as a failed profit, and you can claim almost anything as the fruition of your prophecy. Even if we point out that you predicted we'd be surprised, you'll just link to some arcane bit of ******** and say "surprise!".

That's how charlatans work. This is what they do.
 
(Former) President Pouty ***** -His-Pants is planning an airing of grievances farewell event after leaving the WH the morning of the inaugural. Sounds like a guy who knows he's been kicked to the curb.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Now, for the playground pretend verision . . .
 
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