Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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A lawyer no less!

Trump is just lulling people in to a false sense of security apparently.
Space Force are coming!

Brian Anderson tweets
@magalawbrian
DO NOT go to the capital or anywhere in DC for Inauguration Day! If Trump wanted us there he would have attended himself. He needs us at home for the Space Force GBS address. Mass arrests will be filmed so no need to be there live. Antifa wants us to look violent! #SpaceForceCard

As I have said repeatedly, Trump needs to lull criminals into a false sense of security for mass arrests on January 20th. He even gave us a wink with “no law-breaking”. Of course, he will announce real end to “law-breaking” by attendees, using Space Force’s GBS to tell the world.

https://twitter.com/magalawbrian
 
Pretty clear this was not a protest that go tout of control but a planned, attack. Question now becomes just how high was it plotted?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
As I have said repeatedly, Trump needs to lull criminals into a false sense of security for mass arrests on January 20th. He even gave us a wink with “no law-breaking”. Of course, he will announce real end to “law-breaking” by attendees, using Space Force’s GBS to tell the world.
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Too bad the Global Broadcast Service only transmits to specific military receivers. I'm guessing this is what people were talking about elsewhere when they seemed to believe that Trump could override and broadcast to every TV in the world.
 
dudalb said:
Pretty clear this was not a protest that go tout of control but a planned, attack. Question now becomes just how high was it plotted?
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What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
 
erwinl said:
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
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That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
 
Horatius said:
That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
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Exactly. It would have took discipline,trained troops to pull this off and the Magarats were anything but disciplined and trained.
 
Armitage72 said:
Too bad the Global Broadcast Service only transmits to specific military receivers. I'm guessing this is what people were talking about elsewhere when they seemed to believe that Trump could override and broadcast to every TV in the world.
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Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....

“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
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And that appears to be a serious answer.....
 
Darat said:
Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....

“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
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And that appears to be a serious answer.....
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I think someone watched Wonder Woman 1984 and thought it was a documentary.
 
Darat said:
Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....

“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
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And that appears to be a serious answer.....
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Hercules Rockefeller said:
I think someone watched Wonder Woman 1984 and thought it was a documentary.
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They're not all there

See how far you can watch this interview with the Q-Anon shaman, before giving up. I made about 40 seconds. He starts with moderately conventional conspiracies (yada yada world bank yada yada and then... um... what the no-longer updated crank.net website would have classed as illucid

 
erwinl said:
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
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Every timeline I can find gets really murky after 2:44pm (when the woman was shot by police). There seems to be 3 hours or more after that before the building was considered secure again, but I can find little detail of what occurred during that time. There is tons of video online, but most seem to be before the shooting.
 
Horatius said:
That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
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In other words, the usual Trumpian incompetence, concerning any organization.

Still. One would think ex-military would be more competent than this, but even they, zip tie guy for instance, were more interested in fooling around, as opposed to staying focussed on what their perceived mission was.

And a good thing to it was, that none of the participants had the conviction like what was shown on december 21st, 1989 in Bucharest.
This was their chance, slim as it was, and I don't think (hope) they will get another one quite like this again.
 
Max_mang said:
Every timeline I can find gets really murky after 2:44pm (when the woman was shot by police). There seems to be 3 hours or more after that before the building was considered secure again, but I can find little detail of what occurred during that time. There is tons of video online, but most seem to be before the shooting.
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I can imagine there to be quite a large period to be between the last of the insurrectionists leaving the building and, say, the Secret Service, declaring the building secure again.
 
erwinl said:
I can imagine there to be quite a large period to be between the last of the insurrectionists leaving the building and, say, the Secret Service, declaring the building secure again.
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The Capitol is a big building, probably with a lot of nooks and crannies where one could hide or where one could jam a bomb or Ebola vail or trained attack badger into. "Clearing" a building such as that must be an absolute nightmare.
 
erwinl said:
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
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Of the thousands of people gathered for the rally and subsequently marching up Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol, it would be absurd to suggest that all of them planned to burst through police lines and go into the Capitol building to threaten or attack legislators, and it would be absurd to suggest that none of them did.

There were plenty of people in that mob who didn't expect to be in the Capitol building, and plenty more who hadn't given any thought to how people might react once they got inside. Most of the members of that mob were totally clueless. I'm sure that they are baffled even now as to why anyone was so upset. The sudden sight of a dead or dying woman caused an awful lot of people to wake from their fantasy. Even then, I don't think most of them could actually process what was happening. They were a bit stunned.

The fact that they were stunned, though, just goes to show the depth of their denial of reality.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The Capitol is a big building, probably with a lot of nooks and crannies where one could hide or where one could jam a bomb or Ebola vail or trained attack badger into. "Clearing" a building such as that must be an absolute nightmare.
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Particularly when they had already found actual pipe bombs in several locations. This was just about the worst nightmare for any security service. There could have been more bombs just about anywhere.
 
jimbob said:
They're not all there

See how far you can watch this interview with the Q-Anon shaman, before giving up. I made about 40 seconds. He starts with moderately conventional conspiracies (yada yada world bank yada yada and then... um... what the no-longer updated crank.net website would have classed as illucid

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Yeah after about 40 seconds he suddenly ratchets it up to the "Wait, WHAT???" level. And it goes on for ten minutes. There was a time when people like this were put into institutions. Maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
 
Horatius said:
Particularly when they had already found actual pipe bombs in several locations. This was just about the worst nightmare for any security service. There could have been more bombs just about anywhere.
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I was part of the security team on a Ticonderoga Class guided missile cruiser in the Navy. You never realize how many places you could had something in a space exist until you have to be the one to go "I declare this space safe for reentry."
 
shemp said:
Yeah after about 40 seconds he suddenly ratchets it up to the "Wait, WHAT???" level. And it goes on for ten minutes. There was a time when people like this were put into institutions. Maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
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I remember, not long ago at all, when that was the appeal of interviewing Alex Jones. He would start of reasonable and quickly devolve into ranting and yelling, spewing conspiracy theories, waving papers around, more yelling and ranting about conspiracies. A fun crazy man for comic relief. He seemed so unhinged and crazy as to seem actually harmless.

I guess that behavior has wider appeal than we realized, and not as comic relief.
 
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