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Cont: [ED] Discussion: Trans Women are not Women (Part 5)

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angrysoba said:
Ah! I was only talking about something another person brought up! Don't look at me.
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And then...

cullennz said:
But putting aside that, why would we not behave like other mammals
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Why do we wear clothes instead of run around naked, and why do we have space rockets, and why do we write books, and why do we cook food....?

I don't know. Are you making an argument that we don't actually do any of these things because other mammals don't?

If you are not making this argument that we cannot differ from other animals then how do you explain how we differ from other animals?
 
angrysoba said:
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Why do we wear clothes instead of run around naked, and why do we have space rockets, and why do we write books, and why do we cook food....?

I don't know. Are you making an argument that we don't actually do any of these things because other mammals don't?

If you are not making this argument that we cannot differ from other animals then how do you explain how we differ from other animals?
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https://nextnature.net/story/2011/apes-like-cooked-food-and-what-that-means-for-human-evolution

Because we evolved further than others.

Doesn't change the basics
 
angrysoba said:
So what?

Again, I have to ask why you post this stuff unless you have a point.

What is your point?
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That we are basically just animals, who happen to be mammals and the whole Gender identity thing is mind fluff, pretty much irrelevant to anything, unless it interferes with women's actual rights as a biological sex.
 
cullennz said:
That we are basically just animals, who happen to be mammals and the whole Gender identity thing is mind fluff, pretty much irrelevant to anything, unless it interferes with women's actual rights as a biological sex.
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This has absolutely no relevance to this thread.
 
cullennz said:
That we are basically just animals, who happen to be mammals and the whole Gender identity thing is mind fluff, pretty much irrelevant to anything, unless it interferes with women's actual rights as a biological sex.
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Where does the concept of rights fit in if you have dissolved all social concepts and claim biology is the only valid consideration?

By your argument, we could just as well claim that rights are "mind fluff". It seems to be missing the whole point. It also would make no sense that you were claiming monkeys like gendered toys if gender is mind fluff. Clearly it would be weird to say that males and females like specific toys exactly in the way that their biological sex dictates. Yet sometimes you seem to be arguing this.

Besides, I really think you are completely ignorant about how mammals behave in general based on what you have been saying in this thread, so you probably shouldn't bother trying to use descriptions of mammalian behaviour as prescriptions for human society.
 
angrysoba said:
Where does the concept of rights fit in if you have dissolved all social concepts and claim biology is the only valid consideration?

By your argument, we could just as well claim that rights are "mind fluff". It seems to be missing the whole point. It also would make no sense that you were claiming monkeys like gendered toys if gender is mind fluff. Clearly it would be weird to say that males and females like specific toys exactly in the way that their biological sex dictates. Yet sometimes you seem to be arguing this.

Besides, I really think you are completely ignorant about how mammals behave in general based on what you have been saying in this thread, so you probably shouldn't bother trying to use descriptions of mammalian behaviour as prescriptions for human society.
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I posted a study,

If you don't like the results tell the people doing the study
 
angrysoba said:
Where does the concept of rights fit in if you have dissolved all social concepts and claim biology is the only valid consideration?

By your argument, we could just as well claim that rights are "mind fluff". It seems to be missing the whole point. It also would make no sense that you were claiming monkeys like gendered toys if gender is mind fluff. Clearly it would be weird to say that males and females like specific toys exactly in the way that their biological sex dictates. Yet sometimes you seem to be arguing this.

Besides, I really think you are completely ignorant about how mammals behave in general based on what you have been saying in this thread, so you probably shouldn't bother trying to use descriptions of mammalian behaviour as prescriptions for human society.
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Sorry but personally biology beats identity disorders to me,
 
Having said that I look forward to your argument we are so much better than any other mammal
 
angrysoba said:
Biology is the basis of rights? Okay, can't wait to see you back that up with anything that is not extracted directly from yo ass!
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If it helps I apologise for my country being the first in the world to give women the vote based on sex.
 
cullennz said:
If it helps I apologise for my country being the first in the world to give women the vote based on sex.
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You have it exactly the wrong way round.

1.) Women were not granted the vote based on sex. They were denied the vote based on sex.

2.) You have nothing to apologize for nor do you get to take credit for anything either.
 
angrysoba said:
You have it exactly the wrong way round.

1.) Women were not granted the vote based on sex. They were denied the vote based on sex.

2.) You have nothing to apologize for nor do you get to take credit for anything either.
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That does'nt make sense
 
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