Trump's Coup d'état.

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So that Mitch can get back to driving the GOP off a slightly different cliff?

I’m thinking a new party may emerge from this. The MAGA Party.

That will split the current Republican Party into two warring factions. I think we’re starting to see signs all over the place. The demonization of McConnell and the Republican Governor and Secretary of State of Georgia come to mind as prime examples. Seems at first glance to only help the Democrats for the time being, starting with the upcoming Georgia runoffs.

As an aside, I still chuckle at my autofill suggestions when I start to type “Republican”!

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The most charitable interpretation of Barr's current actions is that he's quitting on account of Trump not letting him charge the alternate "electors" with sedition. Unlikely, more likely, he's finally reached his limit on Trump's BS. Barr maybe a willing tool, but he doesn't strike me as dumb nor delusional.
 
I’m thinking a new party may emerge from this. The MAGA Party.

That will split the current Republican Party into two warring factions. I think we’re starting to see signs all over the place. The demonization of McConnell and the Republican Governor and Secretary of State of Georgia come to mind as prime examples. Seems at first glance to only help the Democrats for the time being, starting with the upcoming Georgia runoffs.

As an aside, I still chuckle at my autofill suggestions when I start to type “Republican”!

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When it looked like there was some possibility of a split with the tea partiers, the GOP resolved it by embracing and internalizing them.

Given that over the last four+ years, the GOP has embraced and internalized Trump and his followers, what makes you think that establishment GOP will change tactics now?

If they're getting criticism from their far right fringe, they'll simply try harder to please them. There may be an adjustment period, but they're always primarily motivated by winning over any other consideration.

They may shed a few members, but the party will become the crazy rather than let the crazy split them every time.
 
Basically, GOP will go full fascist. Once they win - and they will inevitably win, be it in 2, 4, 6, 8.... years, you can say goodbye to what passes for democracy in USA.
 
When it looked like there was some possibility of a split with the tea partiers, the GOP resolved it by embracing and internalizing them.

Given that over the last four+ years, the GOP has embraced and internalized Trump and his followers, what makes you think that establishment GOP will change tactics now?

If they're getting criticism from their far right fringe, they'll simply try harder to please them. There may be an adjustment period, but they're always primarily motivated by winning over any other consideration.

They may shed a few members, but the party will become the crazy rather than let the crazy split them every time.
Yep. The GOP likes to say they are the "big tent" party, and more clowns certainly requires a big tent.
 
Yeah I remember when the Tea Party was going to fracture the Republican Party.

The Republican Party has no standards, only one goal; obtaining power. They will not fracture.
 
Given that over the last four+ years, the GOP has embraced and internalized Trump and his followers, what makes you think that establishment GOP will change tactics now?

Because they're not doing that. Actually doing that would require continuing to dispute the election results.
 
Yeah I remember when the Tea Party was going to fracture the Republican Party.

The Republican Party has no standards, only one goal; obtaining power. They will not fracture.

Yeah but it didn't turn into the Tea Party. It turned the Tea Party into IT--it stopped being about government financial abuse and power abuse and became about being Super-Republican, and took on all the culture war baggage.
 
I am amused and saddened that anyone thinks the dems are any different from the reps in terms of putting principle before power. No successful party puts ideology first. Only the likes of the libertarians and greens do that.
 
I am amused and saddened that anyone thinks the dems are any different from the reps in terms of putting principle before power. No successful party puts ideology first. Only the likes of the libertarians and greens do that.

Trump certainly thought so, or he would have run as a Democrat, which was the party he aligned with for most his life.
 
I am amused and saddened that anyone thinks the dems are any different from the reps in terms of putting principle before power. No successful party puts ideology first. Only the likes of the libertarians and greens do that.

Of course not. But the Democrats are always fighting with one hand behind their because they still have other values.

The Republicans don't put other values before or after or beside or catty-corner to power. Power is the only value.
 
I am amused and saddened that anyone thinks the dems are any different from the reps in terms of putting principle before power. No successful party puts ideology first. Only the likes of the libertarians and greens do that.

Agreed, but the Democrats at least put socially beneficial issues at their forefront and do things to benefit the masses. Republicans (modern ones any way) largely take things away that help people.

There is a lot to be said for old-school Republicanism, in terms of States rights and fiscal responsibility. The new crew is demonstrably rancid.
 
There's a better chance of the Democratic party kicking out all of the progressives they despise so much than Republicans kicking out the Trumpers. If any party is going to fracture, it's the Dems.
 
North Carolina GOP lawmaker urges Trump to suspend civil liberties to keep power: ‘Invoke the Insurrection Act
On Facebook, North Carolina state Sen. Bob Steinburg (R) paraphrased a conservative commentator to make a radical suggestion: President Trump should declare a national emergency, suspend civil rights and remain in power over his baseless claims of election fraud.

Asked by a local TV station on Tuesday whether he stands by those sentiments, Steinburg doubled down, insisting that nefarious forces had corrupted President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

“There’s something going on here bigger than what anybody is willing to talk about,” Steinburg told WRAL Tuesday evening. “I don’t like conspiracy theories at all. But something is going on here that’s bigger than meets the eye.”...

The state senator claimed that the Supreme Court justices had declined to hear the challenge last week because “somebody’s got something” on the highest judicial officers in the nation. He claimed that unnamed FBI and CIA agents who live in his district had told him so. He also alleged that federal law enforcement officials have refused to intervene in a “coup d’etat.”

He also offered, unbidden, to take a psychological evaluation to prove that he is sound of mind.

I’m not nuts,” he told the outlet. “I’m not a conspiracy theory person.”

Who are these 'unnamed' FBI and CIA agents who told him that Supreme Court justices are being blackmailed, and why aren't they doing anything about it?

Sen. Steinburg assures us that he isn't nuts. Assume that is so. Assume the FBI and CIA do not have any evidence of SCOTUS blackmail. That leaves only one rational explanation - Steinburg is lying.
 
Agreed, but the Democrats at least put socially beneficial issues at their forefront and do things to benefit the masses. Republicans (modern ones any way) largely take things away that help people.

There is a lot to be said for old-school Republicanism, in terms of States rights and fiscal responsibility. The new crew is demonstrably rancid.

Sometimes, but there are several issues that are just pandering. Student loan forgiveness, whether or not to open schools. Both harm those in lower socioeconomic strata but are very popular among vocal Dem constituents.
 
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