Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Captain_Swoop said:
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The Supreme Court had ZERO interest in the merits of the greatest voter fraud ever perpetrated on the United States of America. All they were interested in is “standing”, which makes it very difficult for the President to present a case on the merits. 75,000,000 votes!

Wow! Thousands of people forming in Washington (D.C.) for Stop the Steal. Didn’t know about this, but I’ll be seeing them! (...through the bars of a prison cell) #MAGA
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Better.
 
jsfisher said:
I think the "other relief" was the requested injunction.

2-7 to hear the case.
0-9 to grant an injunction to hold the electoral vote.
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The Court denied the motion for leave to file a bill of complaint. The relief requested in that complaint was to throw out the elections and order the state legislatures to choose electors.

Because that motion was denied, the motion preliminary injunction and temporary restraining order or, alternatively, for stay and administrative stay was denied as moot.

They denied the whole ball of wax.
 
Darat said:
Sorry but that just reads like your summary, not seeing examples.
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Alright. I put a little more effort into finding a link to describe some specifics.

AP from 2019, then.

In a 153-page order last week, Totenberg ordered the state to stop using its outdated system after the end of this year, calling it “antiquated, seriously flawed, and vulnerable to failure, breach, contamination, and attack.”

The petition and the amended lawsuit both take issue with the fact that while the paper record printed by the new voting machines includes a human-readable summary of the voter’s selections, the scanner tallies the votes based on a machine-readable code. Voters can’t be sure that the code on the paper accurately reflects their selections, and meaningful audits can’t be done, they argue.

The law Gov. Brian Kemp signed in April says “electronic ballot markers shall produce paper ballots which are marked with the elector’s choices in a format readable by the elector.” That means the new machines do not comply with the state election code, the petition and amended complaint say.

Also, the new system isn’t much safer than the system Totenberg ordered the state to stop using, the amended lawsuit says. Vulnerabilities could cause the machines to print codes that don’t match a voter’s selections, or could cause a scanner to improperly tabulate votes, it says.

By choosing to move forward with the Dominion system, the amended lawsuit says, state officials “willfully and negligently abrogated their statutory duties and abused their discretion, subjecting voters to cast votes on an illegal and unreliable system — a system that must be presumed to be compromised and incapable of producing verifiable results.”

The petition filed Monday also says Raffensperger improperly certified the Dominion system after failing to designate a certification agent; failing to issue a report prior to certification; using the wrong technical testing standards; failing to certify electronic pollbooks, which are an integrated part of the system; and failing to include security testing.

Another problem the petitioners point to is that Dominion’s system records ballots in chronological order, with timestamps kept on memory cards in encrypted records. Election insiders or hackers with access to decrypted data could use these records to connect a voter with his ballot, violating the requirement for secret ballots, the petition says.

“Voters will no longer tolerate unauditable electronic voting systems in Georgia, and are taking back control of their elections through actions like this petition that officials cannot ignore,” said Marilyn Marks, executive director of the Coalition for Good Governance. The organization was a driving force behind the petition and is a plaintiff in the lawsuit before Totenberg.
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Aridas said:
For ease's sake -
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That's not how I understand the systems work. One votes on a screen, yes, but that does not record the vote. Rather a paper ballot is printed out, the voter scans it for correctness and signs it and finally inserts it into a scanner.

Is this the case? Has anyone here actually voted on a Dominion machine?
 
It does yeah but apparently it prints a code too, which is what the scanner part reads, and since you can’t read the code, you don’t know if that’s the same as the readable part of the printed ballot; and also the scanner could possibly be made to misread the ballots.

Any hand recount would be correct though.
 
I think they meant the voter checks and confirms it and puts it in the scanner, rather than signs it and puts it in the scanner. You’re supposed to look and verify your ballot is what you meant it to be before you hand it off, that’s all.
 
SezMe said:
That's not how I understand the systems work. One votes on a screen, yes, but that does not record the vote. Rather a paper ballot is printed out, the voter scans it for correctness and signs it and finally inserts it into a scanner.

Is this the case? Has anyone here actually voted on a Dominion machine?
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*pokes back at post #671 where the issues are listed a bit closer to in full*
 
Paul2 said:
Link to the very brief SCOTUS order on the Texas lawsuit.
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"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot."

Or in plain English: Read the freaking 10th amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. :D
 
This has gone past Don Quixote levels of crazy and like the crazy deluded Don Quixote they will keep tilting a these windmills. :boggled:

'“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution,” he said. In other words, secession.' - It's not 2000 anymore: President Trump's rejection of election sets rocky landscape for President-elect Biden (USAtoday)

Sure let's try an idea that worked so well in the 1860s. Never mind Texas v. White (1869) expressly stated secession was illegal :boggled:

Republicans really have to stop taking the crazy pills.
 
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maximara said:
This has gone past Don Quixote levels of crazy and like the crazy deluded Don Quixote they will keep tilting a these windmills. :boggled:

'“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution,” he said. In other words, secession.' - It's not 2000 anymore: President Trump's rejection of election sets rocky landscape for President-elect Biden (USAtoday)

Sure let's try an idea that worked so well in the 1860s. Never mind Texas v. White (1869) expressly stated secession was illegal :boggled:

Republicans really have to stop taking the crazy pills.
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The irony that is completely lost on these ******* idiots is that if "law-abiding states" did "bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution" that would be the approximately 30 states that are left after Texas and the states that signed up to join them leave.

The actions of those 20 or so states has been just about the most unconstitutional actions by any states since 1860/61
 
From Fred Wellman, Senior Advisor on Veterans Affairs to the Lincoln Project.

"I want to thank these 126 Republican Congress members for providing @ProjectLincoln a convenient and well organized list for the mid-term races. You beclowned yourselves for nothing. You undermined our democracy out of cowardice."

ETA: For reference, here is that handy alphabetical list of shame...

Ralph Abraham
Robert B. Aderholt
Rick Allen
Jodey Arrington
Brian Babin
James Baird
Jim Banks R
Jack Bergman
Andy Biggs
Gus Bilirakis
Dan Bishop
Mike Bost
Kevin Brady
Mo Brooks
Ken Buck
Ted Budd
Tim Burchett
Michael C. Burgess
Bradley Byrne
Ken Calvert
Buddy Carter
Ben Cline
Michael Cloud
Doug Collins
K. Michael Conaway
Rick Crawford
Dan Crenshaw
Scott DesJarlais
Mario Diaz-Balart
Jeffrey Duncan
Neal Dunn
Tom Emmer
Ron Estes
A. Drew Ferguson
Chuck Fleischmann
Bill Flores
Jeff Fortenberry
Virginia Foxx
Russ Fulcher
Matt Gaetz
Greg Gianforte
Bob Gibbs
Louie Gohmert
Lance Gooden
Sam Graves
Mark Green
Morgan Griffith
Michael Guest
Jim Hagedorn
Andy Harris
Vicky Hartzler
Kevin Hern
Jody Hice
Clay Higgins
Trey Hollingsworth
Richard Hudson
Bill Huizenga
Mike Johnson
Bill Johnson
Jim Jordan R
John Joyce R
Fred Keller R
Mike Kelly R
Trent Kelly R
Steve King
David Kustoff
Darin M. LaHood
Doug LaMalfa
Doug Lamborn
Robert E. Latta
Debbie Lesko
Billy Long
Barry Loudermilk
Blaine Luetkemeyer
Kenny Marchant
Roger Marshall
Kevin McCarthy
Tom McClintock
Cathy McMorris Rodgers
Daniel Meuser
Carol Miller
John Moolenaar
Alex Mooney
Markwayne Mullin
Greg Murphy
Dan Newhouse
Ralph Norman
Steven Palazzo
Gary Palmer
Greg Pence
Scott Perry
Bill Posey
Guy Reschenthaler
Tom Rice
Mike D. Rogers
John Rose
David Rouzer
John Rutherford
Steve Scalise
Austin Scott
Mike Simpson
Adrian Smith
Jason Smith
Ross Spano
Pete Stauber
Elise Stefanik
Greg Steube
Glenn Thompson
Tom Tiffany
William Timmons
Jefferson Van Drew
Ann Wagner
Tim Walberg
Mark Walker
Jackie Walorski
Michael Waltz
Randy Weber
Daniel Webster
Brad Wenstrup
Bruce Westerman
Roger Williams
Joe Wilson
Robert J. Wittman
Ron Wright
Ted Yoho
Lee Zeldin
 
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Indeed.
The Trump Republicans are rehabilitating the Lincoln Project, giving it a new lease on life after it looked like it was going to be obsolete in light of the election results.
 
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