Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Whistleblowers reveal that the USPS is responsible for tampering with hundreds of thousands of ballots. @OANN This long time Democrat stronghold got rid of massive numbers, especially in swing states, during and before delivery of the ballots. Well documented evidence!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets
Whistleblowers reveal that the USPS is responsible for tampering with hundreds of thousands of ballots. @OANN This long time Democrat stronghold got rid of massive numbers, especially in swing states, during and before delivery of the ballots. Well documented evidence!
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I would totally take this seriously if my president hadn't told me not to trust whistleblowers.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets
Whistleblowers reveal that the USPS is responsible for tampering with hundreds of thousands of ballots. @OANN This long time Democrat stronghold got rid of massive numbers, especially in swing states, during and before delivery of the ballots. Well documented evidence!
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When you join the postal service, they issue you x-ray goggles that let you read unopened mail. Or maybe they genetically modify you to give you natural x-ray vision. I don't remember.
Oh right. They used the MailopenatronTM to undetectably open all of the ballots, got rid of the Trump ones, and then undetectably resealed them.
 
Armitage72 said:
When you join the postal service, they issue you x-ray goggles that let you read unopened mail. Or maybe they genetically modify you to give you natural x-ray vision. I don't remember.
Oh right. They used the MailopenatronTM to undetectably open all of the ballots, got rid of the Trump ones, and then undetectably resealed them.
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I'm guessing that the specific tampering Trump objects to is that they delivered a load of legitimate Biden votes. He doesn't approve of that sort of thing.

Dave
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Why is there this assumption that Democrat voters would be happy with the results of a rigged election, even though it was rigged in favour of their side?
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Because Republicans have always been happy about winning the elections they have rigged.
Projection explains pretty much everything when it comes to their argumentation and motivation.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Why is there this assumption that Democrat voters would be happy with the results of a rigged election, even though it was rigged in favour of their side?
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Because many people really struggle to understand not everyone thinks or reacts the same way as they do. They know they'd be fine with a win if their side won with a rigged election so assume everyone else would be the same.
 
Darat said:
Because many people really struggle to understand not everyone thinks or reacts the same way as they do. They know they'd be fine with a win if their side won with a rigged election so assume everyone else would be the same.
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It's like the numerous times I've seen online articles about atheism and someone in the comments asked "If you don't believe in God, what keeps you from robbing, raping, and killing all the time?"

... Slowly stepping away from the potential serial killer who assumes that everyone has these urges and is kept from acting on them by the fear of divine punishment, like he is.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Why is there this assumption that Democrat voters would be happy with the results of a rigged election, even though it was rigged in favour of their side?
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What are you talking about? The election was rigged, and Democrat voters are happy. What more proof do you want. :)
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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RIGGED ELECTION!
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Of all the things Trump's tweeted lately, this one seems to me to be the most unhinged. Why would he need to tweet this? Does he think that there are people who don't quite understand that he thinks the election was rigged? Was there some significant ambiguity in all his previous tweets claiming that the election was rigged that he now feels this will clear up? Has there been a news report suggesting that he now thinks it was fair?

Presumably he just realised that it's a few minutes since he last tweeted anything, and though he hasn't actually got anything to say, he doesn't fell that he exists unless he's being actively obnoxious. But it feels like he's just knee-jerking now.

Dave
 
Meadmaker said:
The people like "the man in the red shirt" and the like, are very easily identified. We have time stamps. We can see who was there. It's quite clear who they are. I, of course, do not know their names, but it's quite easy to find them. That leaves me with two observations.

1) We could ask them about why they did what they did.
2) They are being libeled by Team Trump, and by Trump himself through his retweets.
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Not to mention that there almost certainly were VERY few people who had a key to get into that room, and those people were undoubtedly in the leadership of whatever agency or board counts votes and therefore could have easily been identified.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
Not to mention that there almost certainly were VERY few people who had a key to get into that room, and those people were undoubtedly in the leadership of whatever agency or board counts votes and therefore could have easily been identified.
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Not to mention, of course, they HAD to know they were under video surveillance.
 
eerok said:
Projection, I suppose.
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Actually, I think it's exactly the opposite.

People tend to assume that "the enemy" is nothing like them, and while they would never, ever, do something like commit vote fraud, the other side is teeming with people willing to do so.


In reality, I believe very few Americans on either side, or on no side at all, would participate in a vote fraud scheme.

It goes along with a study I heard about earlier this year and have mentioned many times. I heard the author talking on NPR one day this summer. In American politics today, most people could be described as either somewhat left wing or somewhat right wing, with a few people being extreme left wing or extreme right wing. However, the people on each "somwhat" side, are convinced that there are very few "somewhat" on the other side. In other words, people who are somewhat left wing assume that there are huge numbers of people who are extreme right wing, and vice versa.

ETA: Voter suppression is a different matter. Lots more are willing to do that, and many, many, people are willing to go along with it while rationalizing that they aren't really engaged in voter suppression.
 
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Meadmaker said:
Actually, I think it's exactly the opposite.

People tend to assume that "the enemy" is nothing like them, and while they would never, ever, do something like commit vote fraud, the other side is teeming with people willing to do so.


In reality, I believe very few Americans on either side, or on no side at all, would participate in a vote fraud scheme.
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I think most of the projection comes from Trump, who is definitely not above cheating. His followers parrot his idiocy. Their conceptual failure is not so much projection as blind faith in Trump.

Clearly there are Republicans with integrity, though, because we're seeing them standing fast in the face of madness, even if mostly on the state level.
 
I think, in the years to come, lots of ph. d. s will be written on subjects like "Tendency to follow your leader beyond common sense". Not a large percentage, but some people will push on behind a strong leader (and much as we might hate it, Trump is that) long after most will have peeled away. The reason it right now seems like so many of them do is really because Trump has been cultivating those even from before the -16 campaign, carefully weeding out those that might not comply. That's the game he has been playing: It is hardly 4d chess, but it IS a quite mean game of checkers.

Hans
 
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