Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Krebs, Barr, it seems Trump can't even pay people to be loyal to the cause.
 
RolandRat said:
The impact on the peeps in the firing squad maybe a consideration.
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Someone has to carry out executions ultimately. Would the impact of being a rifleman on a firing squad be worse than the person who delivers a lethal injection or pulls the switch on an electric chair or whatever.
 
I'm opposed to capital punishment as a rule. But here in Utah, firing squad has always been an option for those sentenced to death, and it has been employed. I'm told, but cannot confirm, that the reason is because Mormon religious teaching says that murder can only be atoned for by shedding the murderer's blood, which does not always literally occur with other modes of execution.

Anyway, in a firing squad, one rifle out of the four or five designated for the job is randomly loaded with a blank, the so-called "conscience round." This gives the rifleman the option to believe that he fired the blank and so did not contribute to the execution of the condemned.
 
Was Barr ( supposedly ) going to provide the smoking gun of massive fraud to the trump camp? It sure seems like he would be the one worth waiting for.

It's good to see these guys step up and do the job the nation paid them for. Even if some seemed toadies to the end it's clear some have hope.
 
I'm glad Darat moved this thread to the Conspiracies Theories
section, because I started listening to one of the podcasts listed
here — The Michael Cohen Podcast — and heard this line, "He's
capable of killing the hostages, burning the down the building,
and start shooting outside."

:eek:
 
8enotto said:
Does one have feelings laying rat poison or stepping on a roach? Then why would one feel much when a sociopath monster is offed, by whatever means.

When my thieving drug addict nephew was offed in a street shooting all most of us really felt was relief we didn't have to deal with him anymore.
When he was jailed we relaxed on home security.

Because the roach is a bug and the other human doesn't mean we want these problems in our lives and homes.
There lies the issue.
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Oh I get wanting to exterminate people. My concern is not for the sociopath. I don't like what executions do to the rest of society.

Trump and Barr made it a mission to resume federal executions. IMO we did just fine without them. Life without parole is good enough for me.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Yes and no, if it was the case cremation wouldn't have been so strange to the christian world. Bodily resurrection really was a part of christian theology for a long time.
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A couple decades ago I was listening to a Catholic radio station, pretty much by accident. They were discussing resurrection. A speaker said, in effect, that on the day of the Second Coming, believers would be physically raised from the dead. Even if cremated. He went on to say, “I don’t need to understand how, I just need to believe.”

I remember this because I mentally weighed it against Carl Sagan’s words: “I don’t want to believe. I want to know”.

Seemed to crystallize two diametrically opposed world views, which is why I remember it.
 
8enotto said:
Was Barr ( supposedly ) going to provide the smoking gun of massive fraud to the trump camp? It sure seems like he would be the one worth waiting for.
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The U.S. Dept. of Justice and the FBI (i.e., what Barr controls) can only investigate violations of federal law, and there is precious little federal law governing how elections take place within each state. So the fine line that Barr seems to be trying to walk is to say that the investigations he has jurisdiction over have uncovered no evidence to support Pres. Trump's claims. But he also notes that civil action in the states -- which he doesn't have anything to do with -- are where the action is. And also, in my state, voter fraud is a felony, but it's a state-law felony, which would have to be investigated by the state attorney general, not AG Barr.
 
Craig4 said:
I would have also pointed out that the Trump's "landscaping and legal team" doesn't seem to have a problem with Dominion in states where Trump won.
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They shouldn't have a problem with it, since, in fact, "Swing-state counties that used Dominion voting machines mostly voted for Trump" (Washington Post via MSN):

A review of 10 key states (Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin) finds that Dominion systems were used in 351 of 731 counties. Trump won 283 of those counties, 81 percent of the total. He won 79 percent of the counties that didn’t use Dominion systems...

The idea that Trump only lost, say, Pennsylvania, because of Dominion voting systems has to reconcile with the fact that Trump actually won more votes in counties that used Dominion systems (beating Biden by about 74,000 votes in those counties) but lost the state because he was beaten by 154,000 votes in non-Dominion counties. That same pattern holds in Wisconsin as well.

In other words, there’s nothing to suggest that counties using Dominion systems looked significantly different from counties that didn’t. The idea that Biden is president-elect because of some nefarious calculations simply doesn’t match the reality of the county-level vote results.
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Watch: James O'Keefe Calls Into CNN's Morning Conference Call, Tells Startled Jeff Zucker He's Going to Release Two Months of Calls Tonight; Then LOL


Sara A. Carter
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@JamesOKeefeIII: We're going to release 'hundreds of hours of CNN' calls 7 pm ET Tonight.
Do any of you want to take a guess at what CNN President Jeff Zucker told his employees on those calls?

Gregg Jarrett
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SURPRISE! James O’Keefe pops into CNN staff call, tells Jeff Zucker he’s been recording calls for months

Mark R. Levin
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James O’Keefe strikes again, CNN’s Zucker exposed with recorded phone calls. James will be on my radio show at 7:20 PM eastern.
 
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dudalb said:
"Even the Faithful William"...

I wonder if Barr moight be the biggest rat yet preparing to leave the sinking ship.
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Very unlikely, given Barr. Also, as JayUtah just said, Barr doesn't actually have much that he even can do on the subject. With that said, Barr's specialty, really, has been killing investigations and generally impeding justice being done, much like fairly certainly happened with Iran-Contra. That's just not as applicable here.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

RedState
@RedState
Watch: James O'Keefe Calls Into CNN's Morning Conference Call, Tells Startled Jeff Zucker He's Going to Release Two Months of Calls Tonight; Then LOL


Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
@JamesOKeefeIII: We're going to release 'hundreds of hours of CNN' calls 7 pm ET Tonight.
Do any of you want to take a guess at what CNN President Jeff Zucker told his employees on those calls?

Gregg Jarrett
@GreggJarrett
SURPRISE! James O’Keefe pops into CNN staff call, tells Jeff Zucker he’s been recording calls for months

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
James O’Keefe strikes again, CNN’s Zucker exposed with recorded phone calls. James will be on my radio show at 7:20 PM eastern.
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I listened to one bit. There was nothing there.

CNN Zucker tells a reporter/anchor? that it's right to limit coverage of Trump's refusal to concede.

Well yeah!

Is O'Keefe complaining CNN isn't Fox-like?
 
I love that a Trump thread has been relegated to conspiracy theories. It just feels like an example of how he's becoming less and less relevant.

(I know the accusations of election fraud are a conspiracy theory, and of course I also support the move for that reason :p )
 
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