slyjoe
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Don't you think that's a little hyperbolic?
Trump's Coup d'état.
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Don't you think that's a little hyperbolic?
Screwing the economy on the way out in a fit of petty vindictiveness is still bad enough, even if it's not actually "the new 20s".
thaiboxerken
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No. He actually had Mnuchin tell the Feds no more economic help for America.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/mnu...-emergency-lending-programs/story?id=74315800
The Great Zaganza
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Biden should proclaim that his administration's fiscal policy will be based on MMT, and that Republicans are welcome to balance the budget when they are back in charges, since they are so great with money.
Thermal
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I don't care if he says he is Lord and Master of All Creation. He asked the courts to see things his way. He asked his supporters to ask officials to change the vote.
Asking is not a coup. Its just weak posturing and whining.
TurkeysGhost
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Asking people to do illegal things, like throw out votes, is often considered a criminal conspiracy.
"But your honor, the hit man refused my offer to murder my business partner!"
Thermal
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No, it's not a coup attempt if it is nothing but foot stamping and wishful thinking.
Oh god you are so close...
There are no armies. There is a weak tea crybaby and a handful of cronies, doing nothing but asking for a coup, pretty please?
Ok, sticking with my oversimplified example: I 'explore' buying the domain. Icerat laughs and says no. I PM the Admins. They don't even respond, except maybe to joke with each other about the weirdo and is it time to ban him.
A coup attempt in your eyes. A sad joke in mine.
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Yeah we truly are at...
"Sent to prison for a crime I didn't even commit. I mean really 'Attempted' murder what kind of crime is that? Do they give Nobel Prizes for 'Attempted' Chemistry!" - Sideshow Bob
... level here.
"Sent to prison for a crime I didn't even commit. I mean really 'Attempted' murder what kind of crime is that? Do they give Nobel Prizes for 'Attempted' Chemistry!" - Sideshow Bob
... level here.
Vixen
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Sign of the times. There was no Twitter in Napoleon's, Hitler's or Stalin's days. However, had there been, one can imagine them tweeting stuff like 'ALLONS ENFANTS DE LA PATRIÉ!' or 'BLOOD SOIL AND HONOUR!' or 'THE WORKERS UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!'
Whereas it often took days for a message or news to arrive from another country, now we get it instantly.
Trump tweeting, 'I WON THE ELECTION' is outrageous and disgraceful, knowing it to be untrue and even seditious.
cosmicaug
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And now they are apparently mulling over whether they should meet with GOP representatives from Pennsylvania:
This is normal. In any case, there's no indication that there's any intent to do anything in such a hypothetical meeting beyond just asking.
Thermal
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Is that a coup attempt? I hear they're all the rage.
Thermal
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I live in the USA. It is a nation of posers and people going for extended rides on the Imagination Train. The sky is usually falling.
I expect this **** on Twitter. On a skeptical forum, maybe a little disappointing.
Vixen
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That's not a coup, that is a buyout and a commonplace business transaction.
1. That's not what you are doing. You're screeching that both sides are equally bad and that neither side can get a slap on the wrist without the other side getting an equal slap on the wrist.
You'll claim that's not what you are doing, but that's what you are doing.
And we will continue to point and laugh.
I get it, that the whole "Oh I'm just keeping one from getting too full of itself" is the whole persona that people like you adopt, but even that, which is stupid anyway, isn't what you are doing.
2. If that's what you are doing why the pissy routine and the denial that that is just what you are doing? Why were just arguing that Whataboutism isn't exactly what you are always doing?
You denied it, but then when called on it you admitted with a huff and an air of haughty derision. Not very honest of you.
3. Why? Just... why? Why (I expect none but would really like an answer here from somebody, anybody) do so many people look at a discussion that has a side that is arguing from a clear and obvious place of factual, logical superiority and feel this beckoning siren's call to run into it for said discussion for sole purpose of making sure that side doesn't "get too full of itself?"
Why? ******* why? What do you and others think this is such a vital service in discussion?
Again I have ask... you do understand that being right isn't an unfair advantage that you have handicap the discussion for?
Why is "Oh Lordie the people who aren't reality denying sociopaths might think too much of themselves, can't have that. I better swoop in and take them down a peg so they don't" such a goddamn core of your personal philosophy?
Why is taking the correct side down a peg so goddamn bloody important to you?
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Thermal
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Agreed. And? Are you under some misconception that I am defending him? I'm calling him a a sad clown with dreams he can't make come true. LARP couping, if you like.
TurkeysGhost
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I think you and I disagree about how much traction Trump is getting with this. If I had to bet, I would probably say that Trump won't be successful in swaying enough of the right people over to his plot, but that's not to say he hasn't already swayed some.
It seems to me you are seriously downplaying how much success Trump has had in persuading powerful elements of our political system to at least take a "wait and see" approach, if not outright endorsement of his claims of fraud.
Distracting from the core argument about what he is doing wrong with semantics is defending him.
If Trump's drowning someone in a vat of sparkling wine and you're more worried about the fact someone called it champagne, then yes you are, absolutely, 100%, across the board defending Trump and his drowning of the person.
"LOL I'm not defending him, just making sure discussions about what he's doing wrong never stay on track" isn't a thing.
The Great Zaganza
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In the absence of an actual Monarch, plenty Americans have the instinct to assume that if POTUS asks, it must be legal, and refusing would be illegal.
It's more of the mob lawyer thing, the whole...
"Why my client didn't actually shakedown the shop owner for protection money, he just walked into the shop with his two associates, mentioned how nice of a place it was and how much of a shame it would be if anything were to happen to it. Surely there is no law against that?"
... routine.
That's all the whole "Oh it's not technically a coup because he's just asking" routine really is, just that.
"Why my client didn't actually shakedown the shop owner for protection money, he just walked into the shop with his two associates, mentioned how nice of a place it was and how much of a shame it would be if anything were to happen to it. Surely there is no law against that?"
... routine.
That's all the whole "Oh it's not technically a coup because he's just asking" routine really is, just that.
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