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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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jimbob said:
If this is the case - it's even more of a clown show than I thought
https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1329799212091940870



I am struggling to believe that even Trump's lawyers could be this inept. But...
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That is really, really funny.

At this point, I think sanctions are appropriate.

Speaking of incompetence: In Rudy's PA case, they have filed an amended complaint. You know, same old issue - voters in some counties are disenfranchised because voters in other counties got to correct their errors. Therefore, the solution is to throw out all the votes in those counties.

But not even that. In the amended complaint, their requested relief is to ONLY throw out the votes for the president, not the whole ballot. Therefore, all the races where the republican candidates won are fine, but those votes for Biden have to be stricken,

It's complete lunacy.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Now Trump has apparently outright threatened an official to not accept Biden's victory.

"Ms. Palmer told The Washington Post that Mr. Trump — who had celebrated on Twitter after her earlier vote against certification — called her after the meeting, to inquire about her safety. She said he did not pressure her to change her mind yet again."

Sounds like an "it'd be a shame if something happened to you" call.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/...&login=email&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
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Yeah, it would really be a shame if someone accidentally gave the Proud Bois her address. Or told them where her kids go to school.
 
Biden's lead is cut.

Biden:79,690,851

Trump: 73,707,295

Margin: 5,983,556


Trump gained 197 votes.
 
SezMe said:
I quite disagree. Asking, or even just suggesting, *anything* remotely resembling a coup should be met with loud, repeated denunciations from members of ALL political parties. It matters that Trump believes this possibility exists in the real world and it matters even more that his fellow party members don't have the cojones to speak out against him
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What constitutes "suggesting anything remotely resembling a coup"? Can you outline some of the actions that fall into this category?
 
Trump's momentum stopped again

Just when Trump supporters thought the tide was turning.

Biden: 79,700,817

Trump: 73,714,728

Margin: 5,986,089

Biden increases lead by 2,533 votes.
 
Aridas said:
I'm going to echo Babbylonian here - and am somewhat pointedly reminded of Emily's Cat arguing that an NRA ad that called for peaceful discussion and de-escalation with the rabid mobs of irrational, violent leftists who are coming to steal everything you love away from you was completely sincere and that anyone claiming that it was actually much the opposite of an actual call for peace was, well, a partisan hack, in short.
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Hey what now? I don't recall this.
 
Emily's Cat said:
What constitutes "suggesting anything remotely resembling a coup"? Can you outline some of the actions that fall into this category?
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I know this question wasn't directed to me, but I think refusing to answer the question, "Will you step down if you lose the election?" remotely resembles a coup. It is very remote, but the connection is there.

I think saying "We won in a landslide." when in fact you did not win in a landslide, remotely resembles a coup. That one is somewhat more remote, but again, the connection is present.

I think inviting the heads of a state legislature to come to the White House, presumably in an effort to convince them to ignore the votes of the state and instead deliver the electoral votes to him, remotely resembles a coup. In fact, the connection isn't all that remote for that one. That one pretty much resembles an attempted coup. (I'm using the word "coup" to mean any illegal usurpation of power, not necessarily an armed uprising.)

It won't work. He lost. I can't even fathom his intent on most of his actions here, and to make sense of them I have to assert insanity, or genuinely contemplating a coup, or just being a complete and total loser who puts his own feelings ahead of everything else, including the good of the country, and has decided to play some sort of joke on his enemies.

I can't tell, from his actions alone, which of those possibilities is reality. The actions one would take are identical. In particular, just being a total loser playing a joke on his enemies (i.e. on me and maybe 78 million other people), would look exactly like an illegal usurpation of power, so I can't tell the difference.

I genuinely believe that Donald Trump would stage a coup if he thought he could get away with it. That's something I've never said about any other president, and I'm old enough to remember Nixon. I think he has no respect for the law, or for democracy. It's all means to an end for Trump, and the end is not even the sort of America he wants to see. The end that he wants is personal aggrandizement.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
In no time at all, I shall be vindicated. :D ;)

It's long past time to let the coup nonsense die on the hill Trump is still trying to hold.

If I could draw cartoons, I would draw a giant Don T Quixote on a teeny little hill and people simply walking around it.
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Emily's Cat said:
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They should add Rudy as Trump's Sancho Panza.

But to suggest that Trump and his allies aren't attempting a coup is dishonest. That is exactly what it is. Pathetic as it may be.

America is a democratic republic. Trump is attempting to overthrow the democratically elected next President. He's trying to steal our democracy in broad daylight.
 
acbytesla said:
He was big in the 60s. You have to be of that era to remember those songs or somehow stumble on him. I remembered the song today because the arithmetic the GOP is using is just as convoluted. Not sure who the Chad Mitchell Trio is though. Guess I need to Google it.
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I discovered Lehrer in the 2000s.
 
acbytesla said:
They should add Rudy as Trump's Sancho Panza.

But to suggest that Trump and his allies aren't attempting a coup is dishonest. That is exactly what it is. Pathetic as it may be.

America is a democratic republic. Trump is attempting to overthrow the democratically elected next President. He's trying to steal our democracy in broad daylight.
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ATTEMPTING is undeniable.

Even those who claim that a coup has to be violent, why do you think he canned a top guy in the DOD? Because he needs people who will support him. He got rid of the Head of Cyber Security because the guy had the audacity to counteract the narrative.

That he is not going to succeed does not mean that he isn't trying and wouldn't do it if he could get away with it.
 
pgwenthold said:
ATTEMPTING is undeniable.

Even those who claim that a coup has to be violent, why do you think he canned a top guy in the DOD? Because he needs people who will support him. He got rid of the Head of Cyber Security because the guy had the audacity to counteract the narrative.

That he is not going to succeed does not mean that he isn't trying and wouldn't do it if he could get away with it.
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A coup does not have to be violent. And if you think if Trump is successful that it won't be violent, you are almost certainly going to be wrong. 80 million people voted to replace him. They are not going sit idly by as their democratic rights are taken from them.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Will use these charts in court case. The Election was a HOAX. Thank you Justin!
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Justin Hart
@justin_hart
Here. We. Go. @realDonaldTrump tweeted our WI chart but now let's go to Michigan. The key momentum shift happened on Wednesday morning at 6:31AM.
A batch of nearly 150K votes came in.
96% went for Biden
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So that's evidence of rigged votes? The cheaters left some behind?

Twisted.
 
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