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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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DevilsAdvocate said:
Rudy filed a motion to yet again amend his complaint for the Pennsylvania case. His motion asks to be allowed to file a "Second Amendment Complaint". He obviously meant a Second Amended Complaint. Maybe.

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Either he meant what he submitted or his budget doesn't include any money for even marginally competent clerks or interns.

I'm going with the budget option, since he also doesn't seem to have the money for a competent hair stylist and is dying his hair himself with OTC shower-out colors that very young teenage girls would use for a sleepover.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
A Statement from Four Seasons (seen on twitter)

Rudy, you better damn well tell everyone you didn’t get that creosote here!
Four Seasons creosote: dry to the touch in 30 minutes!
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They are basking in their new-found fame. The is even some move to officially declare the site historical. :p
 
Meadmaker said:
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I don't think that's an option I would give the President, though. While he could be that stupid, everyone around him couldn't be. If he seeks information, he has better access to it than anyone in the world. If he seeks it, receives it, and declares that it's all wrong, then that's just his narcissism, but of such an extreme sort that it's actually a mental illness.
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Mebbe not every one of them, but he has been steadily weeding out any of the ones that weren't since he took office. There can't be all that many left.

So, crazy or evil? i can't tell the difference from here. And of course it could be a false dichotomy.
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Definitely is.
 
Now Trump has apparently outright threatened an official to not accept Biden's victory.

"Ms. Palmer told The Washington Post that Mr. Trump — who had celebrated on Twitter after her earlier vote against certification — called her after the meeting, to inquire about her safety. She said he did not pressure her to change her mind yet again."

Sounds like an "it'd be a shame if something happened to you" call.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/...&login=email&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
 
acbytesla said:
This in a nutshell demonstrates the Republicans respect for democracy.



This is one of the reasons I despise the GOP. This is a minor technicality they used to disenfranchise 2,349 voters.
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Before the election, I predicted things like this would result in a Trump re-election. I feared that there would be enough spoiled ballots of this sort, disproportionately among Democrats due to larger mail in vote participation, that it would tip a very close election to Trump.

I'm glad that I was wrong, so far, and I would be very, very, distressed if they found more excuses like this to disenfranchise voters and tip the scales. I'm sure that's their goal in Wisconsin. They'll be there doing everything in their power to throw out any vote they can on the flimsiest pretense.
 
Trump crowing that Fox News' plummeting viewing figures is because they cooked the Golden Goose (himself) and Fox trying to redeem themselves indicates both Fox and Trump have failed to recognise the real reason for Fox' demise.

Billy Joel summed it up in one: 'Honesty is such a lonely word'.

 
acbytesla said:
He was big in the 60s. You have to be of that era to remember those songs or somehow stumble on him. I remembered the song today because the arithmetic the GOP is using is just as convoluted. Not sure who the Chad Mitchell Trio is though. Guess I need to Google it.
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My dad was doing his grad studies at Syracuse when Lehrer started performing around the Boston area, and had connections to that end of New England from his undergrad days at Dartmouth. We had two copies of his first album, the original 10" one (I bet that would be worth a bit now, if I knew where it was) and the 12" reissue (they weren't exactly the same).

He continued to buy each new album as they came out, so I first heard TWTYTW when I was ten or eleven years old.

His songs got a lot of play in our house, and I still know most of them by heart. I got any early start on my politics and social issues education from them.
 
varwoche said:
Fortunately the EC margin is so large that it's not feasible to steal. If one state would flip it, I'd be freaking out, and with good cause.

After all, 4 1/2 years ago it was unimaginable that a nominee/POTUS would collude with Russia to influence an election. It was unimaginable that a POTUS would lean on the leader of a foreign country to manufacture dirt about a political opponent. It was unimaginable that a POTUS would attempt to overturn an election. It was unimaginable that a POTUS would support right wing nut cases who plotted to kidnap a governor and try her in the woods. And it was also unimaginable a political party would blithely play along.

The "it can't happen here" malarkey that phoney balony high horse centrists foist is (1) quaint and (2) fact-deprived.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
At what point can we stop worrying Biden won't be sworn in on Jan 20?

Do we need to wait until Trump leaves the WH? Until the election is certified? Until McConnell loses the Senate in the GA runoff? ;)

What are your criteria?

I'm not saying 'It can't happen here'. I love Frank Zappa. What I am saying is that going along with this particular fret-fest is feeding on itself. Join me over on the light side. :)

I'm not buying a gun because Trump might cause trouble. I'm not stocking up supplies for the coming civil war. So remind me why I can't say it's not going to happen?

Now what I am fretting about is what damage Trump can do in the next 2 months. That checks off my whole fret list and then some all by itself.
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I have the distinct sense you missed this part.

There's an alternate history where one state is determinative. I don't see much value in debating alternate history.

But let's not overlook the undermining of US democracy that is taking place right now due to Trump's surreal, incompetent, doomed-to-fail attempts to steal this election. By all means, join me on the dark side.
 
Lurch said:
I hate this stupid metric!

It's like ranking Box Office sales without accounting for inflation.

Among a population of 150 million, a 10 million difference is considerable. But among a population of 300 million, the same 10 million difference is 1/2 as large.

Prorate by population, or vote totals, etc. Absolute numbers in this context is misleading, and re-arranges rankings in an illusory way.
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The total number of votes isn't a landslide in my view either. The link shows the margins in percentage of votes cast as well. By that metric Coolidge had the largest margin in the last 180 years followed by Harding, FDR, Nixon and LBJ. Trump is expected when it's all said and done to have lost by 7 million votes or 4.5 percent.

As long as he is gone.

Should also be noted that Trump's described his victory over Hillary Clinton to be a landslide. He lost that by 2.09 percent. That's a reversal of 6.3 percent
 
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If this is the case - it's even more of a clown show than I thought
https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1329799212091940870

Isaac Saul
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OMG. Trump's lawyers filed an affidavit claiming statistical irregularities proving election fraud because they *confused Michigan for Minnesota*

They thought "MI" = Minnesota (it's MN), and then compared a bunch of results in Minnesota to Michigan population statistics.
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I am struggling to believe that even Trump's lawyers could be this inept. But...
 
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