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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Meadmaker said:
The whole "audit" versus "recount" thing is actually fairly significant.

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The SoS believes that if every single vote is included in the audit, there will be no need for the recount. Some have questioned whether that's actually accurate. Since this is the audit, not the recount, could the Trump team still demand a recount even after the full vote audit is performed?
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My understanding is that the SoS has stated that this is BOTH an audit and a recount. If he can do that, then it's a good move because it eliminates yet another round of counting.
 
Trump Tweets

Georgia Secretary of State, a so-called Republican (RINO), won’t let the people checking the ballots see the signatures for fraud. Why? Without this the whole process is very unfair and close to meaningless. Everyone knows that we won the state. Where is @BrianKempGA?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

“VICTOR JOECKS: Clark County election officials accepted my signature — on 8 ballot envelopes”

VICTOR JOECKS: Clark County election officials accepted my signature on eight ballot return envelopes during the general election.
reviewjournal.com
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Is this guy admitting to engaging in voter fraud?

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I have a stupid question.

Trump signed a pledge not to set up an independent party in 2015 if he didn't win pre-selection.

If Trump obtained 72million votes in 2020, can't he simply threaten the Republican party to now do exactly that? It would hurt both him and the Republican party but give him money inflows again from campaign donations?


Donald Trump signs pledge not to run as independent (2015)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/03/donald-trump-pledge-independent-president
 
Matthew Ellard said:
I have a stupid question.

Trump signed a pledge not to set up an independent party in 2015 if he didn't win pre-selection.

If Trump obtained 72million votes in 2020, can't he simply threaten the Republican party to now do exactly that? It would hurt both him and the Republican party but give him money inflows again from campaign donations?


Donald Trump signs pledge not to run as independent (2015)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/03/donald-trump-pledge-independent-president
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I wish he'd do exactly that! Take his cultists with him, weaken the GOP, and effectively make the Dems the strongest of the parties.
 
Stacyhs said:
I wish he'd do exactly that! Take his cultists with him, weaken the GOP, and effectively make the Dems the strongest of the parties.
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Won't happen.

The GOP is far more comfortable with fringe elements than the Democrats are.


I think it is far more likely that the Democratic Party will schism within the next four years, and that would be exactly the right lesson to take from the 2020 Election.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Apparently the clarification which makes sense is that Pfizer is promised a billion (or whatever the number is) guaranteed sales when the vaccine is ready. No up-front money was given for R&D.
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Even if it was, so what? He acts like funding vaccine development during a pandemic was a brilliant idea that no other President would have thought of, and the money came out of his own pocket.

But then this is a man who thought switching on Fox News and hearing wild speculation about a possible treatment and then simply repeating it at a press conference, without investigating further let alone waiting for it to be tested, entitled him to the Nobel prize for medicine.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
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If Trump obtained 72million votes in 2020, can't he simply threaten the Republican party to now do exactly that? It would hurt both him and the Republican party but give him money inflows again from campaign donations?
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No, you don't understand. Trump and the Republican Party are one and the same. On his way out the door, Speaker Boehner said "There is no Republican Party. There's a Trump party." Republican officials at every level of government are terrified of Trump. Why would Trump give that up? If anything, it's more likely that responsible Republicans would form a new party.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/john-boehner-republican-trump-party-615357

In 2015, the Republican Party thought it could control Trump. That's what Dr. Frankenstein thought about his monster, too.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Wow. This is exactly what happened to us. Great courage by judge!
Quote Tweet

Chris Buskirk
@thechrisbuskirk
"Philadelphia's election system had collapsed under "a massive scheme" by Democrats to steal a State Senate election in November, a Federal judge today took the rare step of invalidating the vote & ordered the seat filled by the Republican"

Interesting
https://nytimes.com/1994/02/19/us/vote-fraud-ruling-shifts-pennsylvania-senate.html?smid=tw-share
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*Checks date of report*

1994. 26 years ago.

Relevance: zero.
 
Bob001 said:
No, you don't understand. Trump and the Republican Party are one and the same. On his way out the door, Speaker Boehner said "There is no Republican Party. There's a Trump party." Republican officials at every level of government are terrified of Trump. Why would Trump give that up? If anything, it's more likely that responsible Republicans would form a new party.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/john-boehner-republican-trump-party-615357

In 2015, the Republican Party thought it could control Trump. That's what Dr. Frankenstein thought about his monster, too.
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I think that as soon as he steps outside the White House, he isn't the Republican Party anymore, but I guess we'll find out.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

John McLaughlin
@jmclghln
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1...s-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/
via @gatewaypundit
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This analysis is based on the AP's EEVP numbers.

The "Estimated Expected Vote Percentage" is a calculation of incoming total statewide votes that are being tabulated for the race, divided by an AP internally assigned "estimated expected total votes" parameter for the specific race. The "estimated expected total votes" is determined by AP's proprietary research, knowledge, and expertise.

These aren't actual vote counts. They are the AP's estimates of expected final vote shares based on whatever formulas they use--probably things like how the votes are matching pre-election polls, exits polling, which precincts have reported how many votes, etc.

Those estimates change throughout the day as data comes in. The EEVP is an estimate of final vote shares at that time, not the actual vote shares reported by the State at that time.
 
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Matthew Ellard said:
I have a stupid question.

Trump signed a pledge not to set up an independent party in 2015 if he didn't win pre-selection.

If Trump obtained 72million votes in 2020, can't he simply threaten the Republican party to now do exactly that? It would hurt both him and the Republican party but give him money inflows again from campaign donations?


Donald Trump signs pledge not to run as independent (2015)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/03/donald-trump-pledge-independent-president
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Why do you think so many Republicans are still getting their hair parted down the middle by Trump?
 
Trump Retweeted

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
The most corrupt institutions and individuals in America have declared that the election was free of fraud, and that's good enough for me. What's wrong with the rest of you?

Alana Mastrangelo
@ARmastrangelo
Chris Wallace during the first debate: “Will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?”
Joe Biden: “Yes.”
Whoops.

HUD Sec-Select DCP (nil desperandum)
@PurpleBaptist
Stunning. Biden’s choice for chief of staff, Ron Klain, agreed that American “elections are rigged” in 2014 tweet.
 
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