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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Not so sure about the bolded part, frankly.

Me neither.

If, as now, his base accounts for 80%+ of the GOP, there's no reason to suppose that he wouldn't be a front-runner for the nomination as long as he chooses to, and is able to, stand.
 
Jenna Ellis. Senior Legal Adviser to Team Trump and Counsel to Donald Trump tweeted

@JennaEllisEsq
If Joe Biden is really confident he won legally and legitimately, why is he so afraid of proving it?

Because the burden of proof is not on him, dummy.

Hans
 
Jenna Ellis. Senior Legal Adviser to Team Trump and Counsel to Donald Trump tweeted

@JennaEllisEsq
If Joe Biden is really confident he won legally and legitimately, why is he so afraid of proving it?

I can't imagine how a senior legal advisor could be so incompetent as to think that question was even worth framing.

Dave
 
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I wish we could delete posts. :-)

Our own posts, I mean. Although ....
 
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I can't imagine how a senior legal advisor could be so incompetent as to think that question was even worth framing.

Dave

It could be incompetence, the best people are unlikely to want to work for someone with a history of bilking suppliers.

Then again, Jenna Ellis could know it's nonsense but nonsense which has good propaganda value.

Alternatively it could be last of the three in the old adage "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table."
 
With Arizona in the Biden column, Trump would now need to flip Pennsylvania, plus two other states. (I'm assuming Georgia is in the Biden column as well. The networks haven't put it there because of the recount.)

Will that be enough for everyone around Trump to tell him, "Dude. Stick a fork in it.":
 
With Arizona in the Biden column, Trump would now need to flip Pennsylvania, plus two other states. (I'm assuming Georgia is in the Biden column as well. The networks haven't put it there because of the recount.)

Will that be enough for everyone around Trump to tell him, "Dude. Stick a fork in it.":

Pretty much every Republican who is willing to speak on the record would refute the highlighted part because:

  • It's only the #FakeNews who have called it, Arizona haven't announced the official results
  • The gap in Arizona is very narrow
  • President Trump is gaining hand over fist and will soon overtake Joe Binden
  • Even if he doesn't there is wide-scale voter fraud which has artificially inflated Biden's count - once this is identified and corrected, Donald Trump will win Arizona
 
With Arizona in the Biden column, Trump would now need to flip Pennsylvania, plus two other states. (I'm assuming Georgia is in the Biden column as well. The networks haven't put it there because of the recount.)

Will that be enough for everyone around Trump to tell him, "Dude. Stick a fork in it.":

It would be too much and never enough.
 
Georgia's call for a recount was way too premature. Currently, the gap is more than 14000, and >0.25%. There is no basis for a recount.
 
Georgia's call for a recount was way too premature. Currently, the gap is more than 14000, and >0.25%. There is no basis for a recount.

The need was purely political, not least because the Republican Secretary of State is facing calls for his resignation - presumably because President Trump has lost the state and the Senatorial races are going to a run-off.

With all the voter suppression the GOP has been doing, how could this have possibly have happened unless the Democrats were cheating ?
 
Georgia's call for a recount was way too premature. Currently, the gap is more than 14000, and >0.25%. There is no basis for a recount.

Can the hand recount be completed in less than 10 days? The deadline is Nov 20. Then doesn't the decision go somewhere else?

Even if the result flipped (which it won't) it won't make a difference to the Election winner anyway.
 
Can the hand recount be completed in less than 10 days?

Probably not, which sadly is probably the point.

We'll get to the day the votes have to be completed, Georgia's won't be, and Trump will try (and likely and hopefully fail) to get someone to buy a "Therefore the House gets to pick the President" argument.
 
Georgia's call for a recount was way too premature. Currently, the gap is more than 14000, and >0.25%. There is no basis for a recount.

The whole "audit" versus "recount" thing is actually fairly significant.

An audit is required under Georgia law.

This is a new thing for Georgia. They changed voting systems for this election. They used to use a machine system with no paper trail. They switched, and as part of the switch, they put in a requirement for an audit.

I don't know what the statutory requirement is for an audit. I've only seen news stories, not the legislation itself, but apparently the size of the audit is based on real statistics, which means that the number of votes to be counted in the audit is based on the size of the vote and the margin of victory, and so the number of votes required for the audit would be extremely high.

After the audit is complete, and the results certified, if it's close enough the losing candidate can request a recount.

So what is about to get underway is not a recount. It's an audit. That audit is required by law. Where the Georgia Secretary of State made a controversial decision is that he decided to include every single ballot in the audit, whereas the actual requirement was only to include, say, a million votes, chosen in such a way that they were a statistically accurate representation of the real vote. In other words, counting the number of votes that was required for the audit would be almost as expensive as counting every vote, and would be subject to challenge about the method used to select votes for the audit, and then, after it was all done, the loser could request a recount.

The SoS believes that if every single vote is included in the audit, there will be no need for the recount. Some have questioned whether that's actually accurate. Since this is the audit, not the recount, could the Trump team still demand a recount even after the full vote audit is performed?

Of course, such a scenario could only occur if the President was some sort of narcissistic git who cared only for himself and was unconcerned about the expense to the state of Georgia or the damage that this general fiasco is going to cause the country. So, of course, Georgia has to plan for it, because that's how Trump is.
 
Trump Tweets
For years the Dems have been preaching how unsafe and rigged our elections have been. Now they are saying what a wonderful job the Trump Administration did in making 2020 the most secure election ever. Actually this is true, except for what the Democrats did. Rigged Election!
 
So basically "Democrats say elections are rigged but I did a great job making sure they aren't rigged. That said, the election that just happened was rigged."
 
Trump Tweets
For years the Dems have been preaching how unsafe and rigged our elections have been. Now they are saying what a wonderful job the Trump Administration did in making 2020 the most secure election ever. Actually this is true, except for what the Democrats did. Rigged Election!

You know, the most frightening thing is that there are millions of people who probably think something in all that makes sense.

Dave
 
Watching Trump jump through smaller and smaller hoops to maintain the narrative that he's the best at everything and always wins AND that he's the constant victim of a super-seekrit cabal that cuts him off at every turn in ways he can't see coming would be rather hilarious in different circumstances.
 
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