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Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

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The Atheist said:
Good piece here by an Aussie academic on why Trump might be being such and obstructive, lying prick: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/ameri...end-game-is-georgia-and-control-of-the-senate

It'd be hilarious if it backfires.
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The author kind of bounces around.

From the link:
Yes, this all could be explained simply as Trump not liking to lose. But setting such indulgences aside, the reason for this obstruction appears to be two upcoming US Senate runoff elections scheduled for January 5....

Already, it’s clear the focus of the GOP is shifting toward Georgia. The two Republican Senate candidates this week called for the resignation of the secretary of state, a fellow Republican, repeating Trump’s baseless claims over voter fraud in Georgia.

According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, this was done to appease Trump.

“Lest he tweet a negative word about them and risk divorcing them from his base ahead of the consequential runoff,” the publisher wrote.
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No doubt it's why the Bobsy Twins asked the Georgia Republican Sec of State to step down, kissing Trump's ass.

But the idea Trump gives a rip about the GOP? Maybe he wants the GOP to own the Senate. After all, Trump knows he needs McConnell the enabler.
It appears all these efforts are aimed at one goal: energising the Trumpian base for the Georgia run-off elections by delegitimising not only Biden, but the election process itself.
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No way does this matter to Trump if Trump loses the election.

The man has pathological narcissism. I'm not sure why some people don't get this yet. They think, oh sure, he's a narcissist like all politicians. No, it's seriously pathologic.

#1) Trump cannot believe he lost.
#2) He does believe his fantasy that the SCOTUS will pay him back for his appointments and crown him king. They owe him.
#3) He does believe he only lost because people cheated him out of his due.

At some point it will start to dawn on him he's stuck with #3. He'll fly off to Mar a Lago to pout, no way will he concede in any way shape or form except to stop resisting and leave the WH.
 
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TahiniBinShawarma said:
You really should get out of your bubble. I'm not excited, I'm just posting what's going on. That you can't grasp it says more about you than it does about me.
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What bubble is that? Reality?

It's funny as hell hearing you project that.

Biden won this election by more than 5 million. And I'm in a bubble?
Biden was declared the winner by all the news networks and I'm in the bubble?
There have been 16 plus lawsuits challenging this election and almost all have been thrown out. And I am in a bubble?
Trump has had only minor victories, none of which materially change anything and yet I'm in the bubble?
And here you are presenting another frivolous lawsuit and my rolling my eyes and being highly skeptical means I'm in a bubble?

Trump has been saying for a year that he wasn't going to accept anything other than a win. He gaslights everyone for 4 years Almost 25 thousand ldocumented ies in less than 4 years.

But I'm the one in a bubble. :rolleyes:
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
No YOU have a reading disorder. I never said these people were ON Trumps side. I said they submitted sworn statements that SUPPORT Trumps side. There's a difference.
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Those aren't in the pdfs that I downloaded. That said, my guess is it still doesnt help Trump much and may allow Pennsylvania to revoke the need for ID.
 
This 'security ballots' issue is just odd. Here in OR they are optional. Use 'em or not. It doesn't invalidate your ballot if you don't and we've had less than a dozen cases of voter fraud in 22 years of exclusively mail-in voting.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
You're unclear about posting the actual documents because you obviously didn't read them.
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TahiniBinShawarma said:
You're failure to understand the implications is not my problem. What's clear is that you are unclear. No they don't want the ballots counted.
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I read the text of the images you posted, but no I did not read a huge court filing. Sorry, life is short. And your summary is vague and you are just insulting. Even your reply is vague: who is the highlighted “they” for example. Trump? The Democratic Party? The State of PA?
 
JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.
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Welp, they’re all getting fired.
 
It is so funny (in dark way), when people with, how to say, less stellar thought processes think they found something and swarm over it, shriek, scream and make general nuisance.

It inevitably fizzles out, resulting in big, fat nothing.

Rinse and repeat. Again, again and again... apparently, some people never learn.
 
Mader Levap said:
It is so funny (in dark way), when people with, how to say, less stellar thought processes think they found something and swarm over it, shriek, scream and make general nuisance.

It inevitably fizzles out, resulting in big, fat nothing.

Rinse and repeat. Again, again and again... apparently, some people never learn.
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Same reason they buy the National Enguier at checkout stands. Critical thinking has never been instilled in them. In general, they read headlines, and listen to Fox.

When you ask them how they know something, it's "I heard it on...." I am currently struggling with how to break this cycle with certain family members. Specifically to election issues, the excuse for Hillary was "I just can't vote for her.". I heard EXACTLY the same thing in regards to Biden. When I ask what Obama did that was bad, they say "OBAMACARE". But when you probe a little deeper, they don't even know what it is.

I would like a way to break people of this brainwashing, but I don't know the answer.
 
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Mader Levap said:
It is so funny (in dark way), when people with, how to say, less stellar thought processes think they found something and swarm over it, shriek, scream and make general nuisance.

It inevitably fizzles out, resulting in big, fat nothing.

Rinse and repeat. Again, again and again... apparently, some people never learn.
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It’s like meeting Deep Throat in some shadowy underground parking garage and then he tells you that he once saw someone steal a pack of gum.
 
slyjoe said:
Same reason they buy the National Enguier at checkout stands. Critical thinking has never been instilled in them. In general, they read headlines, and listen to Fox.

When you ask them how they know something, it's "I heard it on...." I am currently struggling with how to break this cycle with certain family members. Specifically to election issues, the excuse for Hillary was "I just can't vote for her.". I heard EXACTLY the same thing in regards to Biden. When I ask what Obama did that was bad, they "OBAMACARE". But when you probe a little deeper, they don't even know what it is.

I would like a way to break people of this brainwashing, but I don't know the answer.
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I've found this, too. Their knowledge is very shallow and they rely on what they hear mostly from talking heads on FOX, from twitter, or family/friends. Frankly, I've seen it on here, too, with people posting 'evidence' of voter fraud without doing the tiniest bit of vetting first.

ETA: Hell, half of them don't even know that Obamacare and the ACA are the same thing.
 
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There is evidence that trump faces financial ruin and possibly prison if he can't figure out a way to get a second term as president. And trump knows it. That the public should not expect trump to give up the fight to overturn the election results until the day he is physically forced from the White House, if then. From a long New Yorker magazine article clearly describing the dilemma trump finds himself in.
Trump has denied any financial wrongdoing, and has denounced efforts to scrutinize his tax returns as “a continuation of the worst witch hunt in American history.” But his legal team has lost every round in the courts, and may be running out of arguments. It’s possible that New York’s legal authorities will back off. Even a Trump critic such as Scaramucci believes that “it’s too much of a strain on the system to put an American President in jail.” But a former top official in New York suggested to me that Vance and James are unlikely to abandon their investigations if Trump loses on November 3rd, if only because it would send an unwanted message: “If you’re Tish James or Cy Vance and you drop the case the moment he’s out of office, you’re admitting it was political.” New Yorker link
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trump's entire history has been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. he has always wound up going down in flames. Why would this time be any different? I'm betting (and hoping) it won't be.
 
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Some of you should really watch this video. It is a video by Legal Eagle. I've been watching his channel for years. He has over a million subscribers It's about 30 minutes long. He summarizes each of many Trump lawsuits going over each case. Published on November 10 with almost 1.2 million views in 2 days.

https://youtu.be/ha7iWECm_8E
 
Stacyhs said:
Nice try. The Oregon State Assembly has 38 Democrats and 22 Republicans. We have currently 5 Congressional representatives, one of which is a Republican and 2 Democrat senators. We have had one Republican senator since since 1998, Gordon Smith. Oregon is typically Democrat urban/Republican rural with the Portland metro area dominating.




Citation needed. My search for any such software problem resulted in zero returns.



The trouble with that statement is that the Dems didn't claim the election was 'stolen' from Clinton; the claim was and is that Russia interfered in the election by spreading false information via the internet and that has been well established by our own intelligence agencies. Only Trump and his minions refuse to accept that. Trump claimed that millions of illegal votes were being cast by people being bussed in and people changing hats to vote twice or more times. He was as crazy then as he is now. The difference is that what the Dems claimed was supported by our own Intelligence and what Trump and his GOP sycophants claim is not. In fact, it's being debunked and thrown out of the courts one after the other.
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The signature verification software/scanner issue is covered in the Clark County NV case.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...omated-signature-verification-in-clark-county

One of the victims is named Jill Stokke. She's a blind person who went to the poll to vote on election day but was denied a vote as according to their records she had already voted by mail in ballot. She claims she had not. Yet the signature on her ballot was verified by machine. Of course the local election officials testified that the ballot signature matches the one on file.

It appears she wasn't the only person with a complaint. It does bring up an issue though whether she or the other people are lying or not.
The signature scanning device with "Agilis signature verification software" requires a minimum of 200dpi resolution to work properly yet they have been using DMV signatures that were scanned at less than 200dpi resolution. This is improper and likely renders the signature validation a sham. This is an issue that can be resolved.
It's ok to admit the Democrats never considered President Trump legitimate. It's not like it was a secret.
 
catsmate said:
Classy, but what should one expect from a Trumpette....
:rolleyes:
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Meanwhile, later in the same sentence.......you find that instead of standing on high moral ground, the post appears to be standing on the deck of the Titanic.
Hilarious. Thank you for that.
 
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