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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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JoeMorgue said:
*Sighs* I little know why I am bothering but...

- There is zero evidence of illegal absentee ballots.
- No opposition observers were ejected. (The mob of angry MAGA hats and Proud Boy "Poll Watchers" don't count)
- There was a high turnout, but nowhere near suspiciously high turnout. Our turnout rate was only about 66%.
- There was no "mobile ballot box" fraud.

Just not getting the results you want isn't evidence of a shady election.

You are wrong. You are intentionally promoting spreading false facts and promoting a false narrative. It is dangerous and irresponsible, to say nothing of both intellectually and morally cowardly, to do that.
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Well done Joe!
 
acbytesla said:
So? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Nothing and they know it. It's pure "Here's something totally unrelated that I'm just throwing out there to poison the well."

Might as well go "Democrats used pens to mark the ballots. You know who else signed things with pens? That's right, Hitler!"
 
JoeMorgue said:
Nothing and they know it. It's pure "Here's something totally unrelated that I'm just throwing out there to poison the well."

Might as well go "Democrats used pens to mark the ballots. You know who else signed things with pens? That's right, Hitler!"
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Don't worry - the pen lawsuit has already been dropped in Maricopa County.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Nothing and they know it. It's pure "Here's something totally unrelated that I'm just throwing out there to poison the well."

Might as well go "Democrats used pens to mark the ballots. You know who else signed things with pens? That's right, Hitler!"
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It's ridiculous. About the only thing the two had in common was the use of mail in absentee ballots.

Calling the ones used in the US 2020 election "illegal" is nonsense unless it can be proven.

Let's say that some ballots in this election are not technically "legal". That doesn't mean they weren't cast with honest intent. For example, the GOP are complaining about ballots postmarked on or before election day that the USPS failed to deliver. They are calling those ballots "illegal". In other words sorry, the government didnt do its job. Your ballots are illegal. They're not arguing fraud and the results are not accurate. They simply are looking for a way to not counting votes that went against them.
 
Minoosh said:
I don't really think anyone needs to sack Trump's inner circle, but I could be wrong. An actual strategy could emerge, I suppose, but I doubt it.

Should Biden change his conciliatory tone? From "Heal the nation" to "Concede now and I won't crush your testicles in a vise"? Or maybe he can get Kamala to say it ...

I've had reason to believe in the past that Biden has a pugnacious side.
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Will Trump yield, and this avoid? Or guilty in defense be thus destroyed?
 
acbytesla said:
Trumpkins never let you down with just how crazy they can be.

Marshall Arkansas police chief Lang Holland resigned after making posts on social media that repeatedly said Democrats should be killed. He claimed that the election was being stolen. and "Death to all Marxist Democrats, Take no prisoners, leave no survivors!!"
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Sucking up taxpayer dollars all the way of course.
 
Minoosh said:
Some glitch is keeping me from linking to a Daily Beast story from a couple of days ago. The headline was, "Trump whines: Why isn't Barr coming to save me?" Trump whining is not news. The analysis within caught my eye though:



The key word there is "incoherent." I don't think there's going to be a coherent way out of this for Trump because Trump is fundamentally incoherent.
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It's a feature not a bug.
 
It's a trap!

JoeMorgue said:
You are wrong. You are intentionally promoting spreading false facts and promoting a false narrative. It is dangerous and irresponsible, to say nothing of both intellectually and morally cowardly, to do that.
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How is he doing that?

He gave us some information on 'how the U.S. State Dept explained Ukraine electoral fraud', which presumably is factual. As to what relevance this has to the current US election or what it might mean, he did not state an opinion.

Please don't accuse other posters of 'intentionally promoting spreading false facts and promoting a false narrative' when they just quote from a link and otherwise 'have no opinion on that'. Because it's a trap.
 
Minoosh said:
The key word there is "incoherent." I don't think there's going to be a coherent way out of this for Trump because Trump is fundamentally incoherent.
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Trump isn't the one directing the legal strategy, though. He has requested that his campaign overturn the election result by any means they can manage, and the strategy for doing that is being developed by others.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah stripped of all the fluff it's basically just going "Trump will accept the results of the election if he is given literally no other choice."
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And of course Trump always will have another choice - not to accept the result - and that's the one he'll make. I don't think there's anything which could compel him to.
 
Checkmite said:
Trump isn't the one directing the legal strategy, though. He has requested that his campaign overturn the election result by any means they can manage, and the strategy for doing that is being developed by others.
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And it seems the team is being put together by by the hapless Kushner and run by loony Giuliani.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I wonder if Trump insisted that his aids book him at the Four Seasons no matter what. So then the hotel refused but the aid was so scared he made a venue at Four Seasons happen....
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Hehehehe...

Or that staff member said OK, and relished in the task they'd been waiting years to do to the *******.
 
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Roger Ramjets said:
How is he doing that?
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This is a thread about the 2020 election. He posted a document that could be as much as 19(!) years old. Now, one has two choices: 1) that he just randomly picked an old document to post here or 2) he is using said document to comment on the topic of this thread.

Hmmmm. It's a tough choice but I'll go with 2). In that case, he is guilty as charged.

But maybe you chose option 1.
 
acbytesla said:
So? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Plan A was to win the election through a gimmick called the electoral college.

If that failed, plan B was to claim they were cheated with zero point zero evidence.
 
Donald Trump Jr. tweeted
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America Won’t Trust Elections Until The Voter Fraud Is Investigated
 
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