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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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gregthehammer said:
the flip side of the coin is that it backfires, because the electorate finally wakes up to the obstruction of the GOP, and votes the bums out
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Yeah and I'll be living in my solid gold palace on the "Planet of Clones of Eva Green and Olivia Wilde."
 
pgwenthold said:
Saw on Twitter...

"The All Lives Matter crowd is sure having a problem with the idea that All Votes Matter"
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"In terms you'll understand. The life of the vote starts when it's put in the envelope. It's against God's will to terminate it before it is born." - Seen on Facebook.
 
Again one of Trump's biggest advantages is that his base is split between sad, childish nihilist with an edge-lord "All government sucks, everyone sucks, everything sucks, all sides suck equally, trying improve stuff makes you naive and stupid, burn it all down and laugh at the flames" mentality, people so deep in partisanship that they vote for whoever has the R next to his name regardless how far outside his values are to either the culture or their own party, and far Right racists and bigots who have finally found a hero to rally behind.

If he wins he wins. If he loses he still wins. If he flips over the table he wins.
 
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Can anyone point me to a site which shows the updates for the counting in the remaining states like a stockmarket trend?

Just to see how numbers are trending.
 
Mader Levap said:
Biden is doing very well, considering circumstances, so I reject your silly notion.
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An Australian politician once famously quipped, "a drover's dog could win the next election" and that is what we have here. If the Democrats had put up somebody who was the slightest bit inspirational, it would have been a land slide.

As it is, the only positive is that Biden now has above 50% of the vote which gives his election legitimacy (if he gets there).
 
psionl0 said:
An Australian politician once famously quipped, "a drover's dog could win the next election" and that is what we have here. If the Democrats had put up somebody who was the slightest bit inspirational, it would have been a land slide.

As it is, the only positive is that Biden now has above 50% of the vote which gives his election legitimacy (if he gets there).
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Can you name someone that both urban Democratic voters and rural Republican voters would find inspirational? Right now a large majority or the Republicans seem to find Trump of all people inspirational.
 
psionl0 said:
If the Democrats had put up somebody who was the slightest bit inspirational, it would have been a land slide.
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Winning with landslide for any democrat candidate is impossible. Tables are tilted in favor of Rethuglicans on pretty much every level. This is part of rot that is slowly destroying USA from within.

I also couldn't help notice that you for some reason did not propose any such "inspirational" candidate that could do significantly better than Biden is doing now.
 
Man the progressives are almost as butthurt as the Trumpers over the idea that Biden might win.
 
Mader Levap said:
Winning with landslide for any democrat candidate is impossible. Tables are tilted in favor of Rethuglicans on pretty much every level. This is part of rot that is slowly destroying USA from within.

I also couldn't help notice that you for some reason did not propose any such "inspirational" candidate that could do significantly better than Biden is doing now.
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I really do not understand how people can talk about a landslide anymore. The days when large numbers of voters might 'cross the aisle' to vote for a different party's candidate are long gone. The unpalatable truth is that despite experiencing nearly 4 years of a Trump Presidency the vast majority of those who turned out to vote for him in 2016 did so again in 2020. Add in the clearly very real incumbency effect and its an uphill battle all the way.

Frankly If JFK had descended bodily from heaven with a personal endorsement from god himself I doubt he could do much better than Biden given the electoral situation.
 
Oh goodie. I can't wait to hear what sane, level headed, completely legal thing he has to say.
 
Guybrush Threepwood said:
It's probably a forlorn hope but I wish the international community would call the US on its ******** and stop claiming the US had signed treaties until congress had ratified them, then we wouldn't be at the mercy of whatever loon you elect to the presidency.
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The two problems with that are 1) we would never get any treaty signed unless the presidency and both sides of Congress were all held by the same party, and 2) anything signed by one president/Congress set could (and probably would) be undone by the next set the other party got into office. In principle adding more people to the mix should make it safer to buffer against a single maniac, but in actuality it just adds a whole dimension of party politics to the madness.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh goodie. I can't wait to hear what sane, level headed, completely legal thing he has to say.
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He was visited in the night by three ghosts, and as a result he's had a major realization that Tiny Tim should be put to sleep and his corpse exhibited for money, which will go toward Trump's 2024 campaign fund.
 
TragicMonkey said:
The two problems with that are 1) we would never get any treaty signed unless the presidency and both sides of Congress were all held by the same party, and 2) anything signed by one president/Congress set could (and probably would) be undone by the next set the other party got into office. In principle adding more people to the mix should make it safer to buffer against a single maniac, but in actuality it just adds a whole dimension of party politics to the madness.
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There's a running joke in the tech world.

"Well this is insane. There's 5 different, incompatible formats at work here! We need to create a single format that we will all agree to use!"
(Five minutes later)
"Okay there's now 6 different, incompatible formats at work here."

Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/927/

United States Politics is like a weird political version of that.
 
TragicMonkey said:
He was visited in the night by three ghosts, and as a result he's had a major realization that Tiny Tim should be put to sleep and his corpse exhibited for money, which will go toward Trump's 2024 campaign fund.
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JP Morgan, Kanye, and the Grim Reaper?
 
Meanwhile, Pam Bondi and Corey Lewandowski have apparently got a court order allowing them access to the count in Pennsylvania. My understanding is that there are already 250 republican representatives inside, so I don't know what good two more will do, but at this point it's all about sowing FUD.
 
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