Ed Justice Barrett

[Segnosaur]

Because a woman who makes it onto the supreme court, a level of career achievement that's even more exclusive than becoming an astronaut, is just a "handmaiden" who believes women's role is to be subservient to men.

How do you survive this level of cognitive dissonance?

She may have reached the top of her profession... But with her position of the supreme court, and certain aspects of her background that suggest she is anti-LGBTQ/anti-abortion, there is a good chance that she will make it harder for OTHER women to reach the same goal.

Sort of like the Samuel L. Jackson character from Django Unchained... Yes, he was at the top of his profession, but I doubt anyone would hold him up as a shining example of human rights.

"Do as I say, not as I do".

 

[JoeMorgue]

Standard Republican tactics. Find the one person from the demographic you're keeping down that agrees with you, put them in a position of power and authority over other members of that demographic, and go "What? They are a member of that demographic! That means blah blah blah..."

 

[thaiboxerken]

She may have reached the top of her profession... But with her position of the supreme court, and certain aspects of her background that suggest she is anti-LGBTQ/anti-abortion, there is a good chance that she will make it harder for OTHER women to reach the same goal.

Sort of like the Samuel L. Jackson character from Django Unchained... Yes, he was at the top of his profession, but I doubt anyone would hold him up as a shining example of human rights.

"Do as I say, not as I do".

Exactly, a house slave is still a slave. A lead hand-maid is still a hand-maid.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Standard Republican tactics. Find the one person from the demographic you're keeping down that agrees with you, put them in a position of power and authority over other members of that demographic, and go "What? They are a member of that demographic? That means blah blah blah..."

Yep. They've tried to convince us that they aren't the party of white supremacy because they've praised and raised a "few of the good blacks."

 

[Segnosaur]

Ummm... why exactly should we believe that there would not be an attempt at a federal ban?

I didn’t say there wouldn’t be an attempt. I said it wouldn’t actually pass.

Pedantic much?

You don't need to win the popular vote to get control of the presidency and/or congress.

You need to be pretty damn close to get the House. And abortion opponents aren’t near close enough.

There are plenty of issues where republican politicians side with the minority when it comes to certain issues... The republican tax cuts for millionaires, marijuana legalization, the Affordable Care Act. Yet republican congress-critters support those even though it is (in theory) harmful to their re-election chances. They do so because they think its not important enough to swing voters, and/or they think they can fool people.

I see no reason why a future right-wing republican president (with a solid republican senate and house majority) won't be similarly emboldened, with the knowledge that congress will fall lock-step behind him (as they have done with Stubby McBonespurs and Moscow Mitch over the past 4 years).

 

[thaiboxerken]

I see no reason why a future right-wing republican president (with a solid republican senate and house majority) won't be similarly emboldened, with the knowledge that congress will fall lock-step behind him (as they have done with Stubby McBonespurs and Moscow Mitch over the past 4 years).

Exactly. They keep making elections mean less and less so that they can continue minority rule and do whatever the heck they want.

 

[Bob001]

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Yes, they could have avoided this kerfuffle if they kept silent. Appeasing the mob often works, for a while. But it's not a good long-term strategy. Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane.
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That's precisely the point. Nothing required them to say anything. Barrett's appointment was/is controversial both because of her own public positions and because of the way the Repubs forced it through days before the election. By congratulating her the Scouts embraced the Repub side, and opened themselves to justified criticism from those who disagree. They didn't have to comment at all.

 

[Ziggurat]

She may have reached the top of her profession... But with her position of the supreme court, and certain aspects of her background that suggest she is anti-LGBTQ/anti-abortion, there is a good chance that she will make it harder for OTHER women to reach the same goal.

I love the logic here. We should keep this woman from getting to the top of her profession so that women can get to the top of their profession. I'm reminded of the Douglas Adams bit about Zebras.

"Do as I say, not as I do".

Except you're the one engaging in that. Barret reached the top of her profession, and you're saying she shouldn't. In contrast, Barret never said anyone shouldn't reach the top of their profession.

 

[theprestige]

I see no reason why a future right-wing republican president (with a solid republican senate and house majority) won't be similarly emboldened, with the knowledge that congress will fall lock-step behind him (as they have done with Stubby McBonespurs and Moscow Mitch over the past 4 years).

???

This is some multiverse crossover tier BS. Though it would explain the extreme nature of the anti-Trump freakout: People are crossing over from a universe where Congress has been in lock-step behind Trump and McConnell for the past four years. Where the ACA got repealed. Where the impeachment never happened. Where Congress just did whatever President Trump and Senator McConnell wanted.

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I guess this is kind of a good news, bad news, good news situation for you.

Good news: The multiverse hypothesis has been proven! Multiverses are real and we can actually travel between them!

Bad news: You seem to be stranded outside your home 'verse. Even worse, you're still not fully aware of the shift. (If it helps, we spell it "Nelson Mandela", and he did not die in prison but lived to become a notable statesman and peacemaker. Also, Shaquille O'Neal played a genie in a movie titled "Kazaam".)

Good news: It seems like this 'verse may be better than the one you came from, so maybe it's not such a bad thing that you're here instead of there.

 

[Ziggurat]

There are plenty of issues where republican politicians side with the minority when it comes to certain issues... The republican tax cuts for millionaires, marijuana legalization, the Affordable Care Act. Yet republican congress-critters support those even though it is (in theory) harmful to their re-election chances. They do so because they think its not important enough to swing voters, and/or they think they can fool people.

I see no reason why a future right-wing republican president (with a solid republican senate and house majority) won't be similarly emboldened, with the knowledge that congress will fall lock-step behind him (as they have done with Stubby McBonespurs and Moscow Mitch over the past 4 years).

It's interesting that you mention the ACA, yet don't actually notice what happened. Republicans, even when they had the majority in both houses and the presidency, failed to repeal the ACA. Yet you think they can pass a federal ban on abortion.

Not going to happen.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Except you're the one engaging in that. Barret reached the top of her profession, and you're saying she shouldn't. In contrast, Barret never said anyone shouldn't reach the top of their profession.

Yes. Any woman who's husband allows her can do anything she wants. Perfectly logical.

Hell even her "Originalist" legal ideology is that.

 

[Ziggurat]

Yes. Any woman who's husband allows her can do anything she wants. Perfectly logical.

Hell even her "Originalist" legal ideology is that.

You think Barret only does what her husband allows her to do?

And she's the sexist one? Look in a mirror, buddy.

 

[Segnosaur]

Tell me all about my far right policy preferences. Go on. How do I feel about marijuana legalization? How do I feel about gay marriage? How do I feel about abortion?

I'm sure I'm to the right of you on a lot of stuff. But far right? Yeah, no. If you need to call me far right, it's because you can't engage honestly.

I have no idea what you claim is your position on any of those issues.

But the fact that you have posted repeatedly in support of Stubby McBonespurs and his actions (which threaten to reverse LGBTQ rights, abortion rights, and marijuana legalization) means that at best you are indifferent to those issues, at worst you actually want to see gay rights rolled back, abortion eliminated, and marijuana kept illegal.

 

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[JoeMorgue]

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No but it's becoming a necessary skill since "Far right troll" is now the single largest demographic in America.

Again "ignoring them" doesn't work and gets us to where we are now, where they are in power.

 

[Ziggurat]

I have no idea what you claim is your position on any of those issues.

But the fact that you have posted repeatedly in support of Stubby McBonespurs and his actions (which threaten to reverse LGBTQ rights, abortion rights, and marijuana legalization) means that at best you are indifferent to those issues, at worst you actually want to see gay rights rolled back, abortion eliminated, and marijuana kept illegal.

Trump was in favor of gay marriage before Obama was. I've seen no effort on his part to scale back marijuana legalization efforts, or Obama's part to advance those efforts. Abortion is the only issue of those where he's pushed a conservative agenda, and pardon me if I don't **** a brick on that account. I'm not indifferent, but 1) it's really not my #1 concern, and 2) unlike so many here, I recognize that it's not actually a black and white issue, and I'm not offended by people being either for or against abortion. If abortion is your all-encompassing concern, I suggest that maybe you need to reassess your life.

 

[Ziggurat]

No but it's becoming a necessary skill since "Far right troll" is now the single largest demographic in America.

Again "ignoring them" doesn't work and gets us to where we are now, where they are in power.

I have no power.

And it's funny that you think I'm the one trolling, when my position in this thread has been that there's no reason to freak out and you're the one insisting everyone needs to freak out.

Whatever, chicken little.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

You think Barret only does what her husband allows her to do?

And she's the sexist one? Look in a mirror, buddy.

That's what her christian cult preaches.
They are the sexist ones.

You forget that she is not really a Catholic.

 

[JoeMorgue]

And it's funny that you think I'm the one trolling, when my position in this thread has been that there's no reason to freak out and you're the one insisting everyone needs to freak out.

Well yeah because Little Miss Handmaiden isn't going to be fighting to take your rights away, so why should it bother you?

 

[theprestige]

That's what her christian cult preaches.
They are the sexist ones.

You forget that she is not really a Catholic.

Why is their sexist cult so totally okay with letting a female member seek and achieve positions of high power and authority in society? Independent power and authority, no less. Shouldn't it be Mister Barrett getting confirmed, while Mrs. Barrett stays home, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, if this cult is all you say it is?

Or are we expanding the theory to include some sort of Russian mole/Yuri/Red Sparrow type shenanigans? This handmaiden was selected decades ago to go to law school, pursue a career as an emancipated woman in society, and rise to the highest levels of authority and power in our judicial system... all as a sleeper agent for the Right to Life cabal?