Bill Barr and his October Surprise

[dirtywick]

In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

Oh I didn’t see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently there’s audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

 

[Elagabalus]

Even if I take the worst version of this scandal, accept it without evidence, and multiply it times 10 it won't compare to what Trump does every day before breakfast.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Hunter Biden and I would still vote for him. YMMV

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Oh I didn’t see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently there’s audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

"The shop owner couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden, but said the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after Hunter’s late brother and former Delaware attorney general."

I don't think he used that to identify who brought it in. He has the receipt with Hunter Biden written on it, regardless of whether it was "a second Oswald" who brought it in.

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Hunter Biden and I would still vote for him. YMMV

Cool.

 

[dirtywick]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

"The shop owner couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden, but said the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after Hunter’s late brother and former Delaware attorney general."

I don't think he used that to identify who brought it in. He has the receipt with Hunter Biden written on it, regardless of whether it was "a second Oswald" who brought it in.

Interesting thoughts. But why would he bring it up in conjunction with not being able to identify who’s laptop it is if not as evidence he used to identify who’s laptop it is? And why would a receipt with “Hunter Biden” on it matter if it wasn’t Hunter Biden who signed the receipt?

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Interesting thoughts. But why would he bring it up in conjunction with not being able to identify who’s laptop it is if not as evidence he used to identify who’s laptop it is? And why would a receipt with “Hunter Biden” on it matter if it wasn’t Hunter Biden who signed the receipt?

Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

 

[timhau]

Oh I didn’t see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently there’s audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

It happens all the time with these laptops. That's no reason not to believe whatever the most recent version is, though.

 

[Minoosh]

In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

Here you go:

NYP

The customer who brought in the water-damaged MacBook Pro for repair never paid for the service or retrieved it or a hard drive on which its contents were stored, according to the shop owner, who said he tried repeatedly to contact the client.

delawareonline.com:

He said he began hearing about Burisma and Ukraine shortly after Hunter Biden had left his laptop at the Trolley Square repair shop. When a customer doesn't return after 90 days, Mac Isaac says he typically will reach out to them by phone.

Asked if he called Hunter Biden, Mac Isaac said, "No comment."

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

Here you go:

NYP


delawareonline.com:

That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

 

[Elagabalus]

That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Cool!

 

[Minoosh]

Rather than reposting all the people mocking the fake laptop story, why don't you give us some reason to take it seriously? Was the video even claimed to be from the laptop?

If they had better material they would have used it.

The Biden detractors here are making some of the most deeply dishonest arguments I've ever seen on this forum.

ETA: But they aren't even arguments. Just a bunch of smears, sneers and jeers.

 

[dirtywick]

Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

Oh so the sticker is an integral part of the story and not fake news? Cool then we can move on from that.

 

[Minoosh]

That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Why the inconsistency? What is he hiding?

 

[Norman Alexander]

Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

LOL. What a crock! Nothing of the sort!

I can leave a bodged-up computer at a repair place with a Nazi swastika on it and sign the receipt "Benito Stalin Hitler". In no way does that tie that machine to me, nor does it represent my political views. So if it contains kiddie-porn, does that mean one of those historical leaders is a rock-spider?

Even if this mythical laptop was for some inexplicable reason left at some five-and-dime repair center a zillion miles from where it would be expected to be left, and somehow or other the owner left their private stash of drug-fueled home-movies on it easily accessible, this reeks of a kompromat set-up.

But why go to all that expensive, risky bother. Rudi G has been trawling around Ukraine looking for just this sort of stuff for over a year. He has admitted as much. So just sell the fake kompromat straight to him in Kyiv for dollars, and then let him try to sell it to the US public. He is that stupid and mad. GRU is now millions richer in US dollars, Rudi is happy, and everyone waits for the laugh track to kick in.

So you do understand? This was not aimed at Hunter Biden at all. It was aimed at Rudi, and indirectly it was telling Trump that he, too, can be exposed that easily by his moronic buddies.

 

[Blank]

Things I've gathered up here:

1) Working for a company is bad. Even if HB did some work for CEFC it is absolutely a no issue. CEFC had tons of employees and no ones calling them out - not working would probably mean labeling HB as a deadbeat bum, but hey.

2)If a company employing you ends up doing something fishy later on, it's an obvious mark that everyone doing business with the said company is part of the fishy business - sorry all former CEFC employees.

3)Pictures that have someone that looks a bit like HB doing drugs are always real. I really can't say if some of the crack fotoes are of HB or someone else.
First time I saw it I was like "That explains a ton about Dr. House"

Not that it really even matters. Hunter Biden is not on the ballot. So the entire thing is just a pointless diversion and a desperate last minute attempt to stir up some scandal. Funniest stuff about this is the rabid Trump supporters doing the "worst crime ever/Obama/chyna"-routine.

Even IF HB did some work for CEFC, in what way was that even remotely illegal in 2017? Is there anything except silly CTs and innuendoes?

The origin of the laptop doesn't even matter, who cares if its a fake or real nothingburger. The entire discussion about it's origin is just a smokescreen and a diversion to cover up the fact that there is nothing of value here, just pointless stuff that amounts to absolutely nothing.

 

[dirtywick]

imo the longer they keep pushing this instead of talking about something voters might actually care about the better

 

[Mader Levap]

At this stage, entire thread belongs to conspiracy subforum section.

 

[TahiniBinShawarma]

LOL. What a crock! Nothing of the sort!

I can leave a bodged-up computer at a repair place with a Nazi swastika on it and sign the receipt "Benito Stalin Hitler". In no way does that tie that machine to me, nor does it represent my political views. So if it contains kiddie-porn, does that mean one of those historical leaders is a rock-spider?

Even if this mythical laptop was for some inexplicable reason left at some five-and-dime repair center a zillion miles from where it would be expected to be left, and somehow or other the owner left their private stash of drug-fueled home-movies on it easily accessible, this reeks of a kompromat set-up.

The store is a few miles away from his father's house, and right up the street from the foundation. The "zillion miles" is just nonsense.

But why go to all that expensive, risky bother. Rudi G has been trawling around Ukraine looking for just this sort of stuff for over a year. He has admitted as much. So just sell the fake kompromat straight to him in Kyiv for dollars, and then let him try to sell it to the US public. He is that stupid and mad. GRU is now millions richer in US dollars, Rudi is happy, and everyone waits for the laugh track to kick in.

So you do understand? This was not aimed at Hunter Biden at all. It was aimed at Rudi, and indirectly it was telling Trump that he, too, can be exposed that easily by his moronic buddies.

You have the repair guy as a willing part of some Russian conspiracy?

 

[wareyin]

So you think the repair shop guy is lying?

I've asked you before which contradictory version of his story is true, and how do you know? In response to you asking that exact question already.

 

[wareyin]

What makes you think Shokin wasn't investigating Mykola Zlochevsky/Burisma?

Wow, that's a blast from the past. How many pages back, 6? Or 16.5?

Anyway, the fact that the entire international community was complaining at the time that Shokin wasn't, coupled with his explicit stated refusal to do so. Thanks for playing.