Bill Barr and his October Surprise

TahiniBinShawarma said:
Not sure why you think that given the repair guy gave it to the FBI months before his intermediary contacted Giuliani's attorney Costello.
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I think that because of the issues I mentioned.
There could be a ton of illegal porn on that machine, and no one could get convicted, thanks to Rudy, Bannon, the Post and the White House.
You can thank them.
 
uke2se said:
Not so different if you count Rudy Giuliani as "authorities". Of course, no sane person would, and it seems likely that Giuliani actually aquired this particular trove of Russian disinformation in Ukraine.
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How'd they end up on a laptop the repair guy gave to the FBI months before Giuliani had any contact with the repair guy?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I think that because of the issues I mentioned.
There could be a ton of illegal porn on that machine, and no one could get convicted, thanks to Rudy, Bannon, the Post and the White House.
You can thank them.
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There is no issue with the evidence, that's wishful thinking on your part. The FBI had the laptop before Giuliani even knew it existed.
 
shuttlt said:
What are you talking about? You seemed to be claiming that I was missing some critical bit of evidence that the external drive that the repair guy copied the files to might not have been manufactured until the day after the laptop was dropped off with him. Where are you going with that?
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I will try to use smaller words: The FBI subpoena you think is important is for a hard drive made after the man pretending to be Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop. That doesn't mean the FBI has anything belonging to Hunter Biden. You have repeatedly (that means more than once) questioned why the FBI hasn't said anything about the ongoing investigation, as though their lack of comment is bad for Hunter Biden. In the real world, the FBI doesn't like to comment about ongoing investigations, so a lack of comment now is normal and means nothing.

Is that more clear?
 
wareyin said:
Earlier in the thread there was a link to a Twitter sleuth who examined the FBI document. The serial number of the hard drive named in the document wasn't manufactured until after the anonymous person who couldn't fake Hunter Biden's signature had supposedly dropped off the laptop. You might have missed that because of your ignore list (like you're missing this).
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And if you actually read the whole thread he gets shown why he was wrong, and dmits he doesnt know what he's talking about lol.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I think that because of the issues I mentioned.
There could be a ton of illegal porn on that machine, and no one could get convicted, thanks to Rudy, Bannon, the Post and the White House.
You can thank them.
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I think the claim is more around a child protection issue relating to Hunter's sister-in law/ex lover's daughter. It's not nothing, but I'd think any attempts to cover it up risks being more politically damaging than what ever may originally have occurred.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
How'd they end up on a laptop the repair guy gave to the FBI months before Giuliani had any contact with the repair guy?
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Assumes facts not in evidence. Giuliani has been working the Hunter Biden angle for well over a year now, and there's no reason to trust him when he says he only got the contents of the laptop recently. Since there's evidence that the person who dropped off the laptop wasn't Hunter, it's entirely possible that Giuliani (or his Russian handlers) is the one who arranged the whole thing, and paid someone to pose as Hunter. That makes Repair Guy nothing more than a patsy, and contradicts none of the actual information we current have.
 
wareyin said:
I will try to use smaller words: The FBI subpoena you think is important is for a hard drive made after the man pretending to be Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop. That doesn't mean the FBI has anything belonging to Hunter Biden. You have repeatedly (that means more than once) questioned why the FBI hasn't said anything about the ongoing investigation, as though their lack of comment is bad for Hunter Biden. In the real world, the FBI doesn't like to comment about ongoing investigations, so a lack of comment now is normal and means nothing.
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The subpoena is for the laptop and the drive that the data on the laptop was copied to. You still haven't explained what the point of the Twitter thread is that suggests the drive the files were recovered to was manufactured the day after the laptop was dropped off and seven months before it was handed over to the FBI.
 
Horatius said:
Assumes facts not in evidence. Giuliani has been working the Hunter Biden angle for well over a year now, and there's no reason to trust him when he says he only got the contents of the laptop recently. Since there's evidence that the person who dropped off the laptop wasn't Hunter, it's entirely possible that Giuliani (or his Russian handlers) is the one who arranged the whole thing, and paid someone to pose as Hunter. That makes Repair Guy nothing more than a patsy, and contradicts none of the actual information we current have.
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And Giuliani's psychic knew repair guy would call his attorney lol. Oh and repair guy is lying also when he says he contacted the FBI months before Giuliani was contacted. Lol
 
Horatius said:
Assumes facts not in evidence. Giuliani has been working the Hunter Biden angle for well over a year now, and there's no reason to trust him when he says he only got the contents of the laptop recently. Since there's evidence that the person who dropped off the laptop wasn't Hunter, it's entirely possible that Giuliani (or his Russian handlers) is the one who arranged the whole thing, and paid someone to pose as Hunter. That makes Repair Guy nothing more than a patsy, and contradicts none of the actual information we current have.
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And sorry, it assumes nothing. Unless you want to say the repair guy is lying. If that's what you think, quit beating around the bush and say it.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
And Giuliani's psychic knew repair guy would call his attorney lol. Oh and repair guy is lying also when he says he contacted the FBI months before Giuliani was contacted. Lol
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Guess we need to revisit this issue next year.

Rudy&Trump are creating too much smoke, and the FBI and DOJ won't do anything before the election.
 
Horatius said:
Assumes facts not in evidence. Giuliani has been working the Hunter Biden angle for well over a year now, and there's no reason to trust him when he says he only got the contents of the laptop recently. Since there's evidence that the person who dropped off the laptop wasn't Hunter, it's entirely possible that Giuliani (or his Russian handlers) is the one who arranged the whole thing, and paid someone to pose as Hunter. That makes Repair Guy nothing more than a patsy, and contradicts none of the actual information we current have.
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Do you believe in 2 Oswalds as well? Lol
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
And Giuliani's psychic knew repair guy would call his attorney lol. Oh and repair guy is lying also when he says he contacted the FBI months before Giuliani was contacted. Lol
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This does sound like the sort of thing that should be fairly easily checkable.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Guess we need to revisit this issue next year.

Rudy&Trump are creating too much smoke, and the FBI and DOJ won't do anything before the election.
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Even if we agreed on that, no one else would. I concur though, the FBI isn't going to do anything publicly before the election.
 
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shuttlt said:
The subpoena is for the laptop and the drive that the data on the laptop was copied to. You still haven't explained what the point of the Twitter thread is that suggests the drive the files were recovered to was manufactured the day after the laptop was dropped off and seven months before it was handed over to the FBI.
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I don't know how to make it more clear to you. The subpoena was not for the laptop. Giuliani claimed to have the laptop. If the laptop was in his possession until he turned it over to the Delaware PD, then it was not in possession by the FBI.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
And sorry, it assumes nothing. Unless you want to say the repair guy is lying. If that's what you think, quit beating around the bush and say it.
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No, the repair guy could have gotten played. Russian agents have been known to manipulate people on occasion, you know, sometimes even stupid people.
 
wareyin said:
I don't know how to make it more clear to you. The subpoena was not for the laptop. Giuliani claimed to have the laptop. If the laptop was in his possession until he turned it over to the Delaware PD, then it was not in possession by the FBI.
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Where are you getting this from? This still has nothing to do with the Twitter thread that was so important.
 
shuttlt said:
This does sound like the sort of thing that should be fairly easily checkable.
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When the repair guy contacted the FBI will probably come out. We know the repair guy has at various times claimed to have contacted the FBI over the laptop but other times claimed that the FBI were the ones to contact him. At this point we don't know which version of his story, if either, is true.

When the repair guy was in contact with Giuliani first probably won't be ever known. We certainly can't assume that he is being honest about it as he has given contradictory details about the rest of his story.
 
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