Bill Barr and his October Surprise

The Great Zaganza said:
That was not my information.

If any of the Bidens had seen the material, they certainly would have insisted that the Post refrain from publishing personal information like phone numbers.

So maybe the Post asked for comments, but I would need an actual quote that they showed what they had in advance.
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Where were you getting your information that the post hadn't contacted the Bidens? The original article from the post says that they did and summarises the response from Hunter Biden's lawyer.
 
Armitage72 said:
Rudy Giuliani said Biden was drunk when he came in. The repair guy said he wasn't sure Biden ever came in because he can't see. I'm not sure how those two get reconciled without resorting to "bald faced lie".
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Actually he said “can't be 100 percent sure” no where does it say the person who is assumed to be Biden that dropped the laptop off wasn't drunk. Try harder.
 
Apparently there are some stories too questionable for even Fox News to publish. And some of those too questionable for even a writer at the NY Post to include their byline on.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-rejected-hunter-biden-003834391.html

Can you imagine what huge, career making stories these would represent... if true? How sleazy they must have appeared to the journalists who had read them in detail and had the most intimate knowledge of them, only to walk away or cut any visible ties to them?
 
Babbylonian said:
We've mentioned that Hunter has money and so would probably never enter some rando's repair shop, let alone leave his PC there and never come back for it. I don't think anyone's brought up that an Apple user would probably go straight to Apple. Their service is one of the good reasons for buying their PCs...

But, of course, Hunter's been a substance abuser and that makes one forget everything. :rolleyes:
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Again, someone trying to make sense of a crack and/or meth addicts actions. :rolleyes:
 
Apparently there are some stories too questionable for even Fox News to publish. And some of those too questionable for even a writer at the NY Post to include their byline on.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-rejected-hunter-biden-003834391.html

Can you imagine what huge, career making stories these would represent... if true? How sleazy they must have appeared to the journalists who had read them in detail and had the most intimate knowledge of them, only to walk away or cut any visible ties to them?
 
Giordano said:
Apparently there are some stories too questionable for even Fox News to publish. And some of those too questionable for even a writer at the NY Post to include their byline on.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-rejected-hunter-biden-003834391.html

Can you imagine what huge, career making stories these would represent... if true? How sleazy they must have appeared to the journalists who had read them in detail and had the most intimate knowledge of them, only to walk away or cut any visible ties to them?
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Fox are now reporting that they have confirmed the story though...?
 
shuttlt said:
Where were you getting your information that the post hadn't contacted the Bidens? The original article from the post says that they did and summarises the response from Hunter Biden's lawyer.
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I'm not disputing that, only saying that I didn't know that before, and that the article should not have been published the way it was, and curious why the Biden law team didn't do more to prevent publication.

My guess now is that they saw how much this would be an own-goal for Trump and the Post.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I'm not disputing that, only saying that the article should not have been published the way it was, and curious why the Biden law team didn't do more to prevent publication.

My guess now is that they saw how much this would be an own-goal for Trump and the Post.
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That's possible. Maybe the FBI will come out and confirm it is fake.

I'm not clear what the grounds would be for Biden to prevent them publishing that wouldn't mean Trump could have stopped the tax story.
 
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Giordano said:
Apparently there are some stories too questionable for even Fox News to publish. And some of those too questionable for even a writer at the NY Post to include their byline on.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-rejected-hunter-biden-003834391.html

Can you imagine what huge, career making stories these would represent... if true? How sleazy they must have appeared to the journalists who had read them in detail and had the most intimate knowledge of them, only to walk away or cut any visible ties to them?
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That's funny because people at fox did check and have since found two people copied on some of the emails who verified their authenticity. Then they reported on it with that supporting testimony to back it up.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
That's funny because people at fox did check and have since found two people copied on some of the emails who verified their authenticity. Then they reported on it with that supporting testimony to back it up.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies
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There was nothing illegal for Hunter to arrange a deal with investments in China. The bigger deal would be if Joe Biden expressly traded influence in exchange for cash and your citation makes it clear that there is innuendo but no evidence that “the Big Guy” was Joe. Not enough to convince FOX News.

In fact I think the Big H is McDonald’s Special hamburger sauce🙂
 
Giordano said:
There was nothing illegal for Hunter to arrange a deal with investments in China. The bigger deal would be if Joe Biden expressly traded influence in exchange for cash and your citation makes it clear that there is innuendo but no evidence that “the Big Guy” was Joe. Not enough to convince FOX News.

In fact I think the Big H is McDonald’s Special hamburger sauce🙂
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Don't Fox claim to have at least one of the recipients saying that the Big Guy is Joe?
 
shuttlt said:
Don't Fox claim to have at least one of the recipients saying that the Big Guy is Joe?
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They claim to have "sources" saying that Big Guy is Joe.
They also claim that they spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.

However, they don't claim that the "sources" and the people copied on the email are the same.

"Sources" could be Giuliani or Bannon, for all we know.

Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.

Sources told Fox News that "the big guy" is a reference to the former vice president.
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TahiniBinShawarma said:
That's funny because people at fox did check and have since found two people copied on some of the emails who verified their authenticity. Then they reported on it with that supporting testimony to back it up.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies
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First of all, that article mentions the emails were confirmed by "sources".... Hmmm... no names given . I thought that according to Trump, if your source didn't name names, then it was "fake news".

Secondly... the claim is that email about Biden's dealings with china were verified. But that does not mean that ALL the email was verified. Inserting the occasional 'fake' email in with real email would be a typical tactic in trying to spread disinformation.

Lastly, we do not know how exactly this email was verified.... Forensic analysis? Or did they just ask someone "Does this look legit?" "Yeah might have sent something like that".
 
Segnosaur said:
Lastly, we do not know how exactly this email was verified.... Forensic analysis? Or did they just ask someone "Does this look legit?" "Yeah might have sent something like that".
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See Firestone's email. Fox claim to have been in touch with a recipient of one of the emails.
 
Segnosaur said:
First of all, that article mentions the emails were confirmed by "sources".... Hmmm... no names given . I thought that according to Trump, if your source didn't name names, then it was "fake news".

Secondly... the claim is that email about Biden's dealings with china were verified. But that does not mean that ALL the email was verified. Inserting the occasional 'fake' email in with real email would be a typical tactic in trying to spread disinformation.

Lastly, we do not know how exactly this email was verified.... Forensic analysis? Or did they just ask someone "Does this look legit?" "Yeah might have sent something like that".
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They confirmed certain email chains with participants in the chains. And it may surprise people, but I don't like the drip drip aspect. They should release the emails so the metadata can be confirmed. There could be "fake" emails inserted. That would require a fake Biden dropping the hardware off, or the repair guy lying.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
They confirmed certain email chains with participants in the chains. And it may surprise people, but I don't like the drip drip aspect. They should release the emails so the metadata can be confirmed. There could be "fake" emails inserted. That would require a fake Biden dropping the hardware off, or the repair guy lying.
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Seems like a big con for some nobody repair shop guy to pull off. If it's fake, I'd find the Russian's more plausible.
 
shuttlt said:
Seems like a big con for some nobody repair shop guy to pull off. If it's fake, I'd find the Russian's more plausible.
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Same here, if anything I don't think the repair shop guy has anything to do with any fabrication. Not 100% against the Russians, but there isn't any evidence of that at this point.
 
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