Bill Barr and his October Surprise

TahiniBinShawarma said:
LOL, well if you don't know, I guess the conversation is over, thankfully. But no, the FBI does not share info of ongoing investigations with anyone, including the Senate.
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Horse-flops.

In that regard, I am happy to say that the spirit of collaboration and willingness to exchange data has never been stronger or more pronounced than it is today. Many of the legal and policy impediments that kept us from more fully exchanging information in the past have been or are now being changed. The USA Patriot Act (Pub. L. 107-56) has greatly improved our ability to exchange data with the intelligence community and across law enforcement. In addition, the Attorney General's recent directive to increase the coordination and sharing of information between the DOJ, the FBI, the INS, the USMS, and the Foreign Terrorist Tracking Task Force (FTTTF) on terrorist matters and to establish secure means of working with state and local officials are major milestones in improving our information sharing and collaboration efforts. Equally important, the difficult technology challenges we all face are on the top of everyone's priority list. This is especially so at the FBI. Under Director Mueller's leadership, the FBI, on every front, is hard at work carrying out the Attorney General's information-sharing directive.
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https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/information-sharing-initiatives
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
There is no evidence that what the repair man says happened, didn't.
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It's funny that you'll dismiss the testimony of several anonymous sources in a reputable newspaper because they're unnamed, yet you seem prepared to take a single repair shop guy at his word, despite him also being unnamed and the conduit for his information (which matches a current Russian disinformation campaign) being noted-liar-who-has-openly-been-getting-information-from-an-active-Russian-intelligence-agent-and-who-the-US-intelligence-agencies-warned-the-White-House-was-likely-pushing-Russian-disinformation Rudy Giuliani, and also being unnamed.

It's almost like the actual credibility of the information isn't the primary consideration, and you're just making excuses to dismiss information you don't like and to amplify information you do.
 
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xjx388 said:
Even if they are real, they aren't really a smoking gun as far as showing corruption. It would be surprising if his contacts didn't try to get him to make introductions and use his influence. The question is whether or not those efforts bore any fruit and I don't think there is evidence that they did.
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Even that wouldn't be a smoking gun. Say Biden did manage to get a meeting between one person and his dad - and that's the worst thing alleged here - how does that in any way compare to even a tiny fraction of the ways that Trump has used his power to enrich himself and his family? Jared Kushner, for example, passed classified information on to MBS who used that information to purge political enemies - arresting, and even torturing and murdering some.

So let's assume that absolutely everything about this story is true. If that's the worst dirt Biden has, then he's still infinitely less corrupt as a candidate than Trump.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Even that wouldn't be a smoking gun. Say Biden did manage to get a meeting between one person and his dad - and that's the worst thing alleged here - how does that in any way compare to even a tiny fraction of the ways that Trump has used his power to enrich himself and his family? Jared Kushner, for example, passed classified information on to MBS who used that information to purge political enemies - arresting, and even torturing and murdering some.

So let's assume that absolutely everything about this story is true. If that's the worst dirt Biden has, then he's still infinitely less corrupt as a candidate than Trump.
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Yes but sadly it doesn't work that way. Someone loosely connected to a Democratic Party jaywalking is exactly the same as a GOP candidate committing a felony.

Also, the ample evidence of President Trump and his Administration's misdeeds is a clear indication of his underlying honesty whereas the paucity of evidence of wrongdoing from Joe Biden is irrefutable proof of a huge Deep State cover up. :rolleyes:
 
The Don said:
Yes but sadly it doesn't work that way. Someone loosely connected to a Democratic Party jaywalking is exactly the same as a GOP candidate committing a felony.

Also, the ample evidence of President Trump and his Administration's misdeeds is a clear indication of his underlying honesty whereas the paucity of evidence of wrongdoing from Joe Biden is irrefutable proof of a huge Deep State cover up. :rolleyes:
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If Biden really had nothing to hide, he wouldn't hide it so well.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
So, is that what determines the authenticity of the signature? FoxNews? lol



Get a grip, they provided the invoice, AND told you they didn't have an expert look at it.
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YOU were the one who provided the link to Fox News when someone pointed out the lack of an invoice or other paperwork signed by Hunter Biden.

If fox news was publishing the document then it was their duty to verify it. If they didn't verify it then your reference is worthless and should not have been given.

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Silly Green Monkey said:
They provided a piece of paper that they said had Biden's signature, with nothing to back that up. Again, the FBI didn't think the laptop was worthwhile so the crafters of this scam had to go searching for marks.
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Did they even have access to the original? Or an electronic version or copy of the original (so they could verify if it was an actual signature and not Photoshop.)

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Very believable laptop:
-NY Post
-Daily mail
-Foxnews
-Bannon, Breitbart
“Hunter Biden’s lawyer has come to us both with phone calls and with emails saying, ‘Hey, I’ve got to get the hard drive back,’” Bannon told Sky News on Sunday.
 
Is the Hunter Biden laptop shtick working?

A little apples and oranges, but still interesting.

The first New York Post front page on Hunter Biden's emails ran on October 14. Since then, Biden's lead in RCP average has moved from 9.2 points to 8.9 points.
In the same period (six days) after the Comey letter, Clinton's lead fell from 4.6 to 1.7 in the RCP average.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1318535724723994630

Trump needs DOJ action for this to have any real effect, imho.
And he knows it:
Pres Trump calling on Atty Gen Barr to launch official investigation on corruption charges against Joe and Hunter Biden. “This is major corruption,” said Trump on @FoxNews, “and has to be known before the election.” “We’ve got to get the Atty Gen to act and act fast,” said Trump.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/1318524996566831106
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But then, him loudly calling for it quite dampens the effect.
 
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Ziggurat said:
And Hunter isn’t claiming they aren’t real. I wonder why.
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Common practice in these operations is to load the bait files with plenty of genuine hacked/stolen documents, photos, etc., then salt them with some forgeries. This was the technique, for example, in Russia's election-eve onslaught against Macron: /1

This technique puts the target in a position where they cannot deny the genuineness of some of the materials (which might be proved by other means) but also must not seem to be conceding the genuineness of all the materials (which would tend to validate the salted forgeries). /2

All things to keep in mind when someone demands to know why Biden hasn't declared the emails illegitimate. The method of the operation might be to place him in just such a position. /3, efn

https://twitter.com/walterolson/status/1317472837196722177?s=19​

(Borrowed from earlier in this thread.)
 
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It appears a purposeful technique of this sort of stuff is to make the mechanism of how the information came to light convoluted and dubious as to shift the discussion towards that and away from the substantive issue that this wouldn't be in the top 100 political scandals of the past year...
 
Tero said:
The FBI may now a laptop of some sort. But nobody is saying they have a Hunter Biden laptop. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1243874

Twitter: "You know the FBI could verify if it was Hunters laptop in like two seconds. Is the serial number of the laptop they subpoenaed linked to Biden's Apple account?"
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It would be a little bit shocking if they hadn't done that months ago, wouldn't it? My assumption was that they already knew who it was registered to, where it was purchased from etc....
 
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