• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26

Status
Not open for further replies.
Stacyhs said:
Why would I think you didn't know that? Because if you had, you simply would have said, "Yes, I know that," and saved us all this back and forth. Instead, you became defensive and seemed irritated that I was questioning if the FBI was investigating and not merely stating a fact of policy.....
Click to expand...
That's two things in one sentence you misinterpreted.

I didn't say, "yes I know that", because I thought you were saying, "no one was reporting it, it was only speculation." You know, because I thought you were: "questioning if the FBI was investigating and not merely stating a fact of policy....."

You can fault whomever you want for the crossed wires. I'm good.

As to the second thing, I wasn't defensive or irritated then at all. As for now, nope not either. Was I irritated you insinuated I didn't know one of the most basic tenets of FBI policy? Yeah, a bit. But I'm over it. :)
 
Stacyhs said:
I could take Skeptic Ginger with one hand tied behind my back!

And a pit bull.
Click to expand...
You probably could. I am just a shell of my past physical self, ravaged by an auto-immune disease.

In ninth grade I won the last and only physical fight with a girl I was ever in.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That's two things in one sentence you misinterpreted.

I didn't say, "yes I know that", because I thought you were saying, "no one was reporting it, it was only speculation." You know, because I thought you were: "questioning if the FBI was investigating and not merely stating a fact of policy....."

You can fault whomever you want for the crossed wires. I'm good.

As to the second thing, I wasn't defensive or irritated then at all. As for now, nope not either. Was I irritated you insinuated I didn't know one of the most basic tenets of FBI policy? Yeah, a bit. But I'm over it. :)
Click to expand...

Okay....let's let this go. The horse died.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Kayleigh McEnany tweeted
@kayleighmcenany
UNBELIEVABLE!!

Thousands upon thousands lined for miles along our motorcade route in CALIFORNIA to cheer on President @realDonaldTrump!!!!!
Click to expand...
Wait a sec...

What's Donny Two-Weeks (that's all he has left) doing in California if they all hate him? Come to teach people how to rake the forest floors or something?
 
Trebuchet said:
No worries, the new SCROTUS will throw out the results for the whole state.
Click to expand...
Do you deliberately adopt the most pessimistic outlook possible to cushion the blow when the nightmare scenario arrives? Because I can relate. As soon as I heard Trump trashing Mexico and Mexicans during his announcement speech I suspected he had a chance. But I wasn't sure. Tom Tancredo got nowhere with that in 2008, and the nominee ended up being McCain. I thought maybe the vitriol had been diluted over time, but it was only sleeping. I also underestimated the impact of so-called "reality" TV.

Now I find, in spite of myself, wondering if I should mail in my ballot! No, I will probably drive a few miles to drop it off in a definite, 100 percent official ballot box. But I look at what I've done to myself cognitively, and it's formidable. Believing the Trump campaign is not only evil but brilliantly evil seriously makes me wonder if talking myself out of hope is such a smart strategy.
 
Minoosh said:
Now I find, in spite of myself, wondering if I should mail in my ballot! No, I will probably drive a few miles to drop it off in a definite, 100 percent official ballot box. But I look at what I've done to myself cognitively, and it's formidable. Believing the Trump campaign is not only evil but brilliantly evil seriously makes me wonder if talking myself out of hope is such a smart strategy.
Click to expand...

I know what you mean. I live in OR where I've voted by mail for 30 years. Yet I found myself wondering if I should drive over to a ballot box instead of putting our ballots in the mail box. Trump gets into your head. He's just plain evil. I fought it and put them in the mail box. I wasn't going to let the SOB win.
 
Last edited:
I've used the ballot drop boxes for years here in WA. Probably because they have one at the library where I go all the time any way.

This is the first year, however, I plan to see if my vote was counted.
 
I put my ballot in the regular mailbox. The tracking site says it has been received and registered.

I'm convinced that many (but maybe not a significant amount) of the mail-in ballots will have to be discarded as ineligible. From working computer support for 30 years I know how easy it is for people not to follow directions and there were several steps to take.
 
Last edited:
alfaniner said:
I put my ballot in the regular mailbox. The tracking site says it has been received and registered.

I'm convinced that many (but maybe not a significant amount) of the mail-in ballots will have to be discarded as ineligible. From working computer support for 30 years I know how easy it is for people not to follow directions and there were several steps to take.
Click to expand...

I know it varies by state, but in OR, it's simple: put it in the envelope, sign it, and put it in the mail box. How hard is that?
 
Stacyhs said:
I know it varies by state, but in OR, it's simple: put it in the envelope, sign it, and put it in the mail box. How hard is that?
Click to expand...


Oregon's been voting by mail for a long time. For a lot of people -- both voters and officials -- it's a new world.
After a Pennsylvania court said ballots returned without secrecy envelopes would be rejected in November, election officials and Democrats are raising the alarm that “naked ballots” could inadvertently disenfranchise thousands in a pivotal battleground.
Click to expand...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...court-ruling-complicates-mail-voting-n1241017

This year alone, over half a million mail-in primary ballots have been disqualified for late arrival or other errors, according to a recent NPR analysis.
Click to expand...
https://www.businessinsider.com/mistakes-that-can-disqualify-your-mail-absentee-ballot-2020-9?op=1
 
Stacyhs said:
I know it varies by state, but in OR, it's simple: put it in the envelope, sign it, and put it in the mail box. How hard is that?
Click to expand...

I can't remember if I posted it here but here goes:

1. It says you need a witness signature on one of the envelopes, but that is negated on a separate piece of paper. Some people won't realize that they don't need a Witness signature, and will discard it because they'd think they need to get one and can't.
2. You fill out the ballot. Which you put inside an envelope. Which you put inside another envelope. Which you put inside yet another envelope. I expect that there will be a lot of people who don't follow the directions and mess it up somehow. Hopefully not enough to make a major difference. The first envelope is the ballot privacy one. The second one is the identification one which has your info and requires your signature. The third one is the USPS one with the preprinted mailing address.
3. You have to sign one of the inside envelopes, a step I expect will get missed, thus invalidating that ballot. Fortunately there is a ballot tracking app that will note if your ballot was received and accepted.
I personally like having this mail-in option so I don't have to stand in line or get exposed (however briefly) to dozens of other people. I do admit to some concern that ballots will be messed with somewhere along the way. But as I said, it's now been received and registered so it's all done.

But what if I change my mind???

(Actually, there's a process for that, too. But that ain't happenin'!)
 
Good lord. Why do they have to make so many steps? Fill out the damn ballot. Put it in the envelope. Sign the damn thing. Mail it. I think they deliberately make it more difficult than it needs to be.
 
Stacyhs said:
Good lord. Why do they have to make so many steps? Fill out the damn ballot. Put it in the envelope. Sign the damn thing. Mail it. I think they deliberately make it more difficult than it needs to be.
Click to expand...

I don't know -- but now maybe you can understand my impression that a lot of people will **** it up and have their votes discarded.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top Bottom