Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

So Crazy to watch Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut lecture all on morals & ethics when for 25 years he said he was a Great War Hero in Vietnam, and he was never even there. He lied & cheated right up until the day he got caught. Thank you to those in military who turned him in!

 

[The Don]

STOCK MARKET UP BIG!

Remember, I wouldn’t be President now had Obama and Biden properly done their job. The fact is, they were TERRIBLE!!!

See you in Sanford, Florida, tonight for a Big Rally. Covered Live on @OANN, @newsmax and @cspan. Enjoy!!!

He's convinced me, I'll never vote for Barack Obama for President again.

 

[Darat]

It really says something when even a cruel dictator, Kim Jong-un accepts more responsibility and apologises for their handling of the crisis and the POTUS can't do either.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

We will have Healthcare which is FAR BETTER than ObamaCare, at a FAR LOWER COST - BIG PREMIUM REDUCTION. PEOPLE WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL BE PROTECTED AT AN EVEN HIGHER LEVEL THAN NOW. HIGHLY UNPOPULAR AND UNFAIR INDIVIDUAL MANDATE ALREADY TERMINATED. YOU’RE WELCOME!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Republicans must state loudly and clearly that WE are going to provide much better Healthcare at a much lower cost. Get the word out! Will always protect pre-existing conditions!!!

 

[RedStapler]

Trump Tweets

Republicans must state loudly and clearly that WE are going to provide much better Healthcare at a much lower cost. Get the word out! Will always protect pre-existing conditions!!!

Donnie is clearly a buddy of Randell Mills, where else would Donnie have learned to promise better healthcare and then do nothing for 4 years.

 

[Giordano]

Trump Tweets

The Republicans are giving the Democrats a great deal of time, which is not mandated, to make their self serving statements relative to our great new future Supreme Court Justice. Personally, I would pull back, approve, and go for STIMULUS for the people!!!

Right. Whereas Mitch had declared that he would approve Trump’s nomination before we even knew who that was!

No need to consider, discuss, and evaluate.

“ Old Charlie Mitch stole the handle and
The train it won't stop going-
No way to slow down.“

 

[Trebuchet]

Threee SCOTUS justices die when there is a Republican President and a Republican Senate. Im sure why that is considered “pretty darn good.” Trump didn’t cause their deaths and no real skill was required to replace them.

...............
Normal presidents: I feel honored to be placed in such great company.

President Trump: I didn’t get enough press coverage.

Nitpick: One of those justices died much earlier, but it would have been oh, so wrong to confirm a justice in an election year. And one retired. Only Ginsburg died while Trump was President.

 

[The Man]

Trump Tweets

We will have Healthcare which is FAR BETTER than ObamaCare, at a FAR LOWER COST - BIG PREMIUM REDUCTION. PEOPLE WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL BE PROTECTED AT AN EVEN HIGHER LEVEL THAN NOW. HIGHLY UNPOPULAR AND UNFAIR INDIVIDUAL MANDATE ALREADY TERMINATED. YOU’RE WELCOME!

'Oh, and did I mention WE DELIBERATELY TERMINATED THAT INDIVIDUAL MANDATE JUST SO WE COULD GET THE COURTS TO DECLARE MANY PEOPLES' CURRENT HEALTHCARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.'


What are the odds of the court declaring the legislation that terminated only the individual mandate as unconstitutional instead? 4 to 5 perchance?

 

[Giordano]

I view the “We will give you a better health plan for cheaper than Obamacare. We just haven’t got around to it over the last 4 years because we’ve been so busy trying to destroy Obamacare!” as an intelligence test of the American public. It is a fairly simple test, equivalent to observing if the participants answer “No you are lying!” vs try eat the pencil.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Much of Trump's rural base finds Obamacare hilarious because what hospital are they going to use it at?

Again this is just one of those deep, core disconnects between rural and urban mentalities.

In an urban area the big injustice is that the hospital is like... right there but you can't afford to go to it.

In rural areas it doesn't matter how much it goes to go to the hospital, you'll be dead before you get there. Nobody cares how much it costs to go to a hospital that's 100 miles away.

 

[Bob001]

What is the actual Repub argument against the ACA? If it was just flaws in the law itself, it could be amended and improved. But they haven't done that. If the Repubs wanted to provide better coverage for less money, they could pass laws to do that. But they haven't. The original objection was to the individual mandate. But that's gone. What do the Repubs gain by taking health insurance, however imperfect, away from 22 million people? Why is this the issue it's become?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

What is the actual Repub argument against the ACA? If it was just flaws in the law itself, it could be amended and improved. But they haven't done that. If the Repubs wanted to provide better coverage for less money, they could pass laws to do that. But they haven't. The original objection was to the individual mandate. But that's gone. What do the Repubs gain by taking health insurance, however imperfect, away from 22 million people? Why is this the issue it's become?

The goal of Republicans is to privatize all forms for government participation in social security and healthcare.
The assumption being that the private sector will make it better and cheaper (evidently not true), but most importantly, taking Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security away from the Government will free up the budget for more Defense Spending.

 

[Trebuchet]

What is the actual Repub argument against the ACA? If it was just flaws in the law itself, it could be amended and improved. But they haven't done that. If the Repubs wanted to provide better coverage for less money, they could pass laws to do that. But they haven't. The original objection was to the individual mandate. But that's gone. What do the Repubs gain by taking health insurance, however imperfect, away from 22 million people? Why is this the issue it's become?

SOCIALISM!!!!

 

[JoeMorgue]

1. The Democrats want it, which makes it evil. If the Democrats adopted "Kittens are cute" as a pillar of their party platform today, by close of business on Wednesday at the lastest "Kittens are hideous" would be retconned into always having been a major pillar of the Republican Party Platform.
2. The vague idea of "self reliance" and the idea that you just shouldn't be provided things you didn't "work for" (with "provided with" and "work for" being very poorly and self servingly defined.)
3. Democratic Health care = Abortions. Just so many abortions. Hot and cold running abortions. Roadside abortion stands. Buy 10 abortions get one free. Abortion of the month club. Abortion combos with a side of fries. Tonsils out? Why not an abortion while we are in there?
4. As noted the whole "scawwy socialism" thing.
5. As I already said "Who cares about costs of health care where the nearest health care provider more robust then the minute clinic at the drug store is a 45 minute drive away?"

 

[Mojo]

The goal of Republicans is to privatize all forms for government participation in social security and healthcare.
The assumption being that the private sector will make it better and cheaper (evidently not true), but most importantly, taking Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security away from the Government will free up the budget for more Defense Spending money out of it.

FTFY

 

[Armitage72]

Don't forget the surveys that have shown Republican voters who hate Obamacare but think the Affordable Care Act is great.
President Obama did it = Burn it in the fires of Hell.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Re the Gallup finding, are you better off than 4 years ago:

CNN: That Gallup poll doesn't say what Donald Trump thinks it does

But here's the thing that both Trump and his campaign seem to miss: It is an incredibly damning indictment of Trump personally that, in a country where a majority of the people believe they are better off than they were four years ago, the incumbent President is currently losing badly in his bid for a second term.
What the Gallup numbers suggest is that even though people feel better off than they were at this time in 2016 -- a somewhat remarkable finding given the ongoing coronavirus pandemic -- they don't ascribe that better feeling to Trump and his policies. Or even if they do give Trump credit for feeling "better off" -- usually a measure of economic stability, optimism and well-being -- there are other things they prioritize when it comes to choosing the next president.
(Important note: The Gallup poll was conducted before the first presidential debate -- and Trump's erratic performance. It was also in the field prior to Trump's diagnosis last week with Covid-19.)

 

[turingtest]

What is the actual Repub argument against the ACA? If it was just flaws in the law itself, it could be amended and improved. But they haven't done that. If the Repubs wanted to provide better coverage for less money, they could pass laws to do that. But they haven't. The original objection was to the individual mandate. But that's gone. What do the Repubs gain by taking health insurance, however imperfect, away from 22 million people? Why is this the issue it's become?

"It's soshalism!"

That's the argument against the ACA boiled down to its essential for easy digestion by the GOP's basest base. And the reason they haven't come up with anything substantial to replace it in four years (or, really, the six before then) is because anything that would work, anything that would actually be a better health plan cheaper than Obamacare, would have to practically be Obamacare. They've already co-opted the popular "pre-existing conditions" part of it as their own, but a toothless EO claiming it without doing anything real to make it real, is about as far as they can get before they realize that any realistic, detailed plan they come up with is going to be as much socialism as the ACA ever really was- you can't actually make the insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions without a law to mandate it, and that's the same sort of "government regulation of business" that the GOP is in business to frown upon.

Normally, that kind of hypocrisy and re-write of history wouldn't be an obstacle; I think it may be here because the people most likely to be affected by Obamacare's loss and then replacement by a near-identity will be those most likely to be Trump supporters. Even they could get the point behind the old Steven Wright joke- "last night somebody stole everything in my apartment and replaced it all with exact replicas"; and even more so if the replica doesn't work.

TL;DR- what Trebuchet said.

 

[JoeMorgue]

The liberals are certainly a lot madder, which is "better off" for a lot of Trump supporters.