Trump and Melania test positive test positive for Covid 19

[Meadmaker]

For Trump, I think the actual worst electoral nightmare scenario would be if someone in his entourage dies from it.

Suppose this scenario:

He attended a fundraiser after he knew Hope Hicks was positive, and when he may have already even had symptoms himself, though undiagnosed as Covid symptoms. If it's a fundraiser this close to an election with POTUS actually present, I'm picturing a bunch of old, rich, white guys. One of them catches Covid, and dies.

The children of old rich white guy Republicans are often outspoken liberals. One of those children gets on TV and basically says, "My dad is dead because Trump cared more about getting campaign money than keeping people safe. He knew he had been exposed, but he didn't care."

Ahh, but this is all speculation. There are so many ways this can play out that could have significant effects on the election, or like so many other things we have thought were important in the last four years, it might not move the needle at all. We'll all have to stay tuned for further developments.

 

[Meadmaker]

Hey, if the Pres is incapacitated temporarily for illness, does the Veep run the show till he recovers? I was putting the moves on a blonde in high school Civics class and missed that particular procedure

Yes. There's a process where the veep can be named as acting President when POTUS is incapacitated. I don't know if it actually says "acting president" on the paperwork.

It has been used a couple of times when the President goes under sedation for a medical procedure, but those were always brief periods.

ETA: Looked it up. It's in the 25th amendment. In section 3 it says that the President can declare that he can't discharge the duties of the office for a period of time, and the vice president then becomes acting President. In section 4 it describes a much more complicated procedure for when the President doesn't make that declaration, but the Veep and the cabinet think he's incapable of discharging his duties, they can declare the Vice President as the acting President. There's a lot more fine print in that section.

 

[alfaniner]

But then they’ll need to actually follow through on that and the vaccine will actually have to work.

They only need to carry that impression through Election Day. After that it doesn't matter.

 

[acbytesla]

Hey, if the Pres is incapacitated temporarily for illness, does the Veep run the show till he recovers? I was putting the moves on a blonde in high school Civics class and missed that particular procedure

No....and maybe. The President has to sign a letter transferring power or the cabinet must vote that yes the President is incapacitated. Only in the event of those two events or the President dying does the VP take charge.

 

[grunion]

But then they’ll need to actually follow through on that and the vaccine will actually have to work.

Why do you presume he will be held accountable for any claim that he makes that wins him the election?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

If there were a god and she was angry at Trump the golden calf ...

NPR

In the past week alone, Trump has held rallies in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Minnesota; welcomed his Supreme Court nominee to the White House; and, of course, traveled to Ohio for Tuesday's presidential debate. Along the way, he came into close contact with countless White House officials and supporters.

Even if she's not infected, I wonder how her quarantine will affect her Senate confirmation? They have a month after the election but there goes that Trump fantasy the SCOTUS is going to install him.

 

[acbytesla]

Yes. There's a process where the veep can be named as acting President when POTUS is incapacitated. I don't know if it actually says "acting president" on the paperwork.

It has been used a couple of times when the President goes under sedation for a medical procedure, but those were always brief periods.

The President signs a letter giving the VP authority when he goes under sedation. Without the letter, nothing happens.

I see you added to your post. You ninja'd me.

 

[TheRealnz]

"They told me 'Sir, we've never seen such a tremendous and powerful recovery like yours, ever. The likes of which have never been seen before... So strong, such a strong immune system, we've never seen anything like it.' You think Sleepy Joe would have recovered as fantastic as I did? "

 

[Jack by the hedge]

It's borderline criminal that Trump was aware he was exposed to the coronavirus by Hope Hicks, who tested positive on Wed but he still traveled to a fundraiser on Thursday. "where one attendee said POTUS came in contact with about 100 people" & he was having symptoms

Maggie Haberman NYT wrote
"Trump is said to have minor symptoms. He was lethargic at the Bedminster fundraiser, per an attendee. As of last night, officials were discussing treatment options as well as options for addressing the nation." https://nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02...ld-like-symptoms?referringSource=articleShare

So when attenders who met him start keeling over, how many families will seriously consider suing him?

 

[johnny karate]

They only need to carry that impression through Election Day. After that it doesn't matter.

Why do you presume he will be held accountable for any claim that he makes that wins him the election?

Two-thirds of the electorate already don’t trust what Trump says about the coronavirus, including all the times he claimed there would soon be a vaccine available soon.

I don’t see how this would move the needle on that.

 

[Sherkeu]

For Trump, I think the actual worst electoral nightmare scenario would be if someone in his entourage dies from it.

Suppose this scenario:

He attended a fundraiser after he knew Hope Hicks was positive, and when he may have already even had symptoms himself, though undiagnosed as Covid symptoms. If it's a fundraiser this close to an election with POTUS actually present, I'm picturing a bunch of old, rich, white guys. One of them catches Covid, and dies.

It is possible that they did not tell Trump at first. They knew...but did he?
Perhaps they thought it best to wait for a confirming test to make sure it was not false positive or something or they just didnt want to cancel. Canceling would pop up the red flags right away and take away 'options'. Those options disappeared when Hicks test results leaked to the media.

Recall that RBG died as Trump was on his way to a rally and they didnt tell him. He found out after. This was likely so he would keep focused (as far as that is even possible with Trump).

 

[johnny karate]

They only need to carry that impression through Election Day. After that it doesn't matter.

Why do you presume he will be held accountable for any claim that he makes that wins him the election?

Two-thirds of the electorate already don’t trust what Trump says about the coronavirus, including all the times he claimed there would soon be a vaccine available soon.

I don’t see how this would move the needle on that.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Mark Meadows this morning: "The President does have mild symptoms."

 

[Meadmaker]

Recall that RBG died as Trump was on his way to a rally and they didnt tell him. He found out after. This was likely so he would keep focused (as far as that is even possible with Trump).

I read a report that said his aides chose not to interrupt him during the rally because they feared that the crowd would cheer when they heard the news, and that wouldn't be a good image.

 

[Elagabalus]

Nobody has access to better care. But that doesn't mean he'll avail himself of it. A lot of people are just bad patients, no matter what the quality of their care. Trump is the sort of person who'd eat before a surgery, lie about it, then barf up cheeseburger and breathe it into his lungs while under anesthesia. That's very irritating for the surgeons.

Consider this: Trump also has access to the best hair stylists. How's that working out for him?

I totally read that as "eat before a sugary!"

Of course, I read that after I read Craig4's post:

He eats and lives like a poor person though. No exercise, no fruit or veggies in his diet. He probably has the same health problems as people who live in food deserts and have to eat food high in salt, sugar and fat.

where Trump lives in a food dessert.

 

[Trebuchet]

For Trump, I think the actual worst electoral nightmare scenario would be if someone in his entourage dies from it.

Suppose this scenario:

He attended a fundraiser after he knew Hope Hicks was positive, and when he may have already even had symptoms himself, though undiagnosed as Covid symptoms. If it's a fundraiser this close to an election with POTUS actually present, I'm picturing a bunch of old, rich, white guys. One of them catches Covid, and dies.

The children of old rich white guy Republicans are often outspoken liberals. One of those children gets on TV and basically says, "My dad is dead because Trump cared more about getting campaign money than keeping people safe. He knew he had been exposed, but he didn't care."

Ahh, but this is all speculation. There are so many ways this can play out that could have significant effects on the election, or like so many other things we have thought were important in the last four years, it might not move the needle at all. We'll all have to stay tuned for further developments.

Or maybe a black supporter, a former candidate for President and businessman, gets it at one of his unmasked rallies! Oh, wait, that already happened. And his family has just gone on tweeting in his name.

 

[The Greater Fool]

I can't help picturing Trump wandering the WH halls in a giant hamster ball.

 

[shemp]

Shemp, if you lived closer, I would take you out for a celebratory cocktail.

Here, have one on me!

 

[Bob001]

The man in the red masque has reached the 7th apartment with the black velvet tapestries.

Wallace comments:

Chris Wallace could have made quite a public statement if he had insisted on wearing a mask himself at the debate.

 

[Andy_Ross]

BREAKING NEWS: Lindsey Graham just tested negative for testicles.