Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Today, I announced two of the LARGEST grants in history to Puerto Rico to rebuild its electrical grid system and education system. My Administration will be awarding $13 BILLION through FEMA – the largest obligations of funding ever awarded...

...Obama killed the pharmaceutical manufacturing business in Puerto Rico. We are bringing it back from China and other faraway lands.

 

[SezMe]

Trump Tweets

Don’t worry, wonderful & beautiful Alaska, there will be NO POLITICS in the Pebble Mine Review Process. I will do what is right for Alaska and our great Country!!!

Since the president should not be involved in the review process, him proclaiming that he will be involved means that the review will be ALL about politics. What a putz.

 

[Tero]

More stuff before election. Trump will nominate and Mitch approve Ginsberg's replacement. How soon can Canada open up some abortion clinics for us?

 

[SezMe]

He doesn't need to; he's not going to show up. His excuses will be that Biden is on drugs, or he's too busy, or the moderators are fake news, or have blood coming out their wherever.

With his ego? He'll show up expecting to wipe the floor with Biden and claim afterward that that is exactly what he did, no matter what actually happened.

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump Tweets

Today, I announced two of the LARGEST grants in history to Puerto Rico to rebuild its electrical grid system and education system. My Administration will be awarding $13 BILLION through FEMA – the largest obligations of funding ever awarded...

...Obama killed the pharmaceutical manufacturing business in Puerto Rico. We are bringing it back from China and other faraway lands.

How? Obama had absolutely nothing to do with it. The pharmaceutical manufacturing business in Puerto Rico was decimated before Obama even took office due to the repeal of the Section 936 tax break between 1996 and 2006. Just another example of Trump lying. Does that sorry excuse for a man ever NOT lie?

 

[turingtest]

More stuff before election. Trump will nominate and Mitch approve Ginsberg's replacement. How soon can Canada open up some abortion clinics for us?

Yeah, I just saw where RBG died. The **** is going to well and truly hit the fan now, unless McConnell and Co do the honorable thing and go by the "let the people have their say" standards* they set themselves four years ago. Not gonna happen- they will move the goalposts, "uh, well, it's different now because this and that."

*McConnell in 2016- ""The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let's give them a voice. Let's let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be."

 

[Cain]

More stuff before election. Trump will nominate and Mitch approve Ginsberg's replacement. How soon can Canada open up some abortion clinics for us?

Overturning Roe does not mean abortion will become illegal nationally. In all likelihood, only certain states will make it illegal, and those states already make it difficult to have an abortion. I've heard estimates the abortion rate would probably decline ~10%.

If the conservatives are like Justice Thomas, then, yeah, they could determine the fetus has a right-to-life. Because of the backlash, this would be a big mistake. Big. Huge.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

More stuff before election. Trump will nominate and Mitch approve Ginsberg's replacement. How soon can Canada open up some abortion clinics for us?

Don't we have an RBG thread? This is my 3 cents:

Our only hope is a few GOP Senators with a conscience. I think that is the case, especially with their own reelection looming.

Back up option, we take the Senate and POTUS back and follow through with the threat of expanding the number of seats on the court by ... oh let's say two or four more seats.

McConnell might take option #3): try to use it as campaign leverage.

If McConnell doesn't move for an approval vote, you can bet that means he doesn't have the votes.


Edited to add: If they try to push a SCOTUS nominee through you can bet that will piss off more voters than it will please.

 

[SezMe]

Here's statistics for a country that let in a large amount of refugees. The worst of all has been child sexual assaults that jumped up by 30% in 2016, with the most probable reason being the large amounts of migrants let in that year. Just the nastiest stuff in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada#/media/File:CanadaHomicideRate.jpg
https://protectchildren.ca/en/press-and-media/news-releases/2017/statcan_report_child_sexual_abuse

Regarding the first link: Interesting that you cited the graph WITHOUT the accompanying text. However, if you read that text, it says NOTHING about child sexual assaults. The graph you cited shows the Canadian *homicide rate*.

Regarding both links: Neither say a word about migrants. In fact, doing a word search on the word "migrants" in both articles shows zero results. Thus, the data you cite does not support your assertions.

Maybe you're used to posting in forums where fact-checking is considered beneath the poster. You might want to consider going back.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Think about it.

Let's say that through some miracle we get the Republican Senate to agree to hold on appointing the new Justice until after the election. They won't, but let's say.

What happens when Trump loses but declares himself the winner on some pretext? Who do we turn to? The 4-2 Conservative remaining members of the Supreme Court? Even Roberts having one of his moments of sanity would only get us to a tie with no way to break it.

 

[Cain]

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's a fait accompli that Republicans push to nominate and replace.

Howver, if Trump and McConnell agree whoever wins should get to name the next nominee, I wouldn't be surprised if, after Trump loses, they renege and try to cram through their choice.

 

[Babbylonian]

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's a fait accompli that Republicans push to nominate and replace.

You're totally naive. McConnell has said flat out that filling a vacancy now would be totally different from the last time he refused to do so because the current president is Republican. He will absolutely try to shove another [incompetent, probably criminal] judge onto the Supreme Court bench before January 21. Whether it happens before the election or after is completely irrelevant because none of the Republicans involved would be likely to lose votes over doing it. Their supporters will consider it Divine Providence that they get to make the federal court system completely insane for the next 20-30 years.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump at the rally
Trump praises the top general who fought on behalf on slavery

"Lincoln was getting beaten a lot by Robert E Lee. They want to rip down his statue all over the place, he would have won except for Gettysburg, these were incredible things",


"We will stop the radical indoctrination of our students, and restore patriotic education to our schools. We will teach our children to love our country"

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump on what will happen if he loses the election
"On November 4th, the press will probably say, let's say something stupid happened, the press will say, 'I gotta admit, he did a damn good job!'"

 

[Andy_Ross]

"They charged and they beat the hell out of these guys" -- Trump praises law enforcement for brutalizing people who allegedly were trying to tear down a statue of Andrew Jackson, who he describes as "a very good president"

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump pushes unfounded conspiracy theories about Rep. Ilhan Omar
"Look at Omar. She came in here, did she marry her brother?"

Trump suggests congress members AOC, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib should be prosecuted
"We'll prosecute 'em. Yeah. Why not?"

Trump insinuates that AOC should be in prison
"She spent $2 million on ********, okay? And if a Republican did that, they'd be in jail"

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Overturning Roe does not mean abortion will become illegal nationally. In all likelihood, only certain states will make it illegal, and those states already make it difficult to have an abortion. I've heard estimates the safely practiced in a proper medical environment by qualified personnel abortion rate would probably decline ~10%.



If the conservatives are like Justice Thomas, then, yeah, they could determine the fetus has a right-to-life. Because of the backlash, this would be a big mistake. Big. Huge.

FTFY

 

[newyorkguy]

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's a fait accompli that Republicans push to nominate and replace...

I'm guessing it is pretty much a given because McConnell and the GOP want to amass power, to win. They clearly believe the end justifies the means.

More importantly:

Think about it...What happens when Trump loses but declares himself the winner on some pretext?...

Read what the Transition Integrity Project has to say, as summarized by The New Yorker:

The Transition Integrity Project, a nonpartisan group of academics, journalists, and current and former government and party officials, recently released a report outlining a number of election scenarios that are both plausible and terrifying. Trump has primed his followers with repeated warnings of voter fraud, so there is a real possibility that they may denounce as illegitimate any outcome in which he loses. Beyond that, the report suggests, the Administration could seize mail-in ballots in order to prevent them from being counted, or pressure Republican-controlled legislatures to certify results before all mail-in ballots have arrived. The authors conclude that “voting fraud is virtually non-existent, but Trump lies about it to create a narrative designed to politically mobilize his base and to create the basis for contesting the results should he lose. The potential for violent conflict is high, particularly since Trump encourages his supporters to take up arms.” Link to "Talk of the Town" column in The New Yorker

Horrible to contemplate, but as bad as the past four years have been -- especially the past seven months -- they may have just been the lead up to the final stomach-churning events that brings down our democracy as we have known it for the past two hundred forty-four years.

Five years ago I couldn't even have imagined writing those words. 'Bring down our democracy.' If I read them I would have laughed at it and said, "Hey calm down." But some people are getting a sickening feeling -- and I'm one of 'em -- that this may in fact be exactly where all this insanity is headed.

 

[Tero]

The Ginsburg replacement will become a Trump issue now. Everything is Trump now, and he will do a mass of awful things after he loses the election.

 

[Cain]

You're totally naive. McConnell has said flat out that filling a vacancy now would be totally different from the last time he refused to do so because the current president is Republican. He will absolutely try to shove another [incompetent, probably criminal] judge onto the Supreme Court bench before January 21. Whether it happens before the election or after is completely irrelevant because none of the Republicans involved would be likely to lose votes over doing it. Their supporters will consider it Divine Providence that they get to make the federal court system completely insane for the next 20-30 years.

Trump and McConnell certainly want to replace Ginsburg, and if it were just up to them, then they'd do it. Fortunately, they have to contend with political reality. The hypocrisy of doing this even four months ago is different than six weeks before the election. Murkowski has already said she won't support it ("fair is fair"). Such naked hypocrisy is not a good look -- though, admittedly, with Trump anything is possible (except decency).

I'd guess President Trump will meet with people, claiming he wants to be prepared. At rallies, he'll go off message to say things that the crowd wants to hear, but it's not clear to me that Orange Man & Turtle Face can get the necessary number of Republican Senators to go along with a confirmation.