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Anarchy in Seattle--Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

It's not easy to feel sympathy for a person who beat someone up and stole their car at knife point, even if they were 16. Still, if it was "CHOP security" who shot him, they should be held accountable. If it was the people who he stole the car from, they should still be held accountable, but on a lesser charge.
 
The New York Post :eye-poppi :jaw-dropp

Careful, dude, the last time I used them as a source heads exploded. Best to go straight to the Mail. They've got way better pictures including an interview with the woman telling this story, Plus there's that white supremacist angle.
Speaking of the Mail, they've got this hilarious video where there's this anarchist white boy hiding behind this girl whose sitting down reading. He even invites the cops come over and **** her up.

The cops take him up on his offer only they completely ignore the girl and take him down. Guess that's what happens in progressive Seattle if you refer to a woman as a girl. Your misogynistic ass gets handed to you on a platter.

Seattle cop KNEELS on CHOP protester's neck after officers dive at angry demonstrators
 
It's not easy to feel sympathy for a person who beat someone up and stole their car at knife point, even if they were 16. Still, if it was "CHOP security" who shot him, they should be held accountable. If it was the people who he stole the car from, they should still be held accountable, but on a lesser charge.

My understanding is that it was "CHOP security" who shot them believing them to be right-wingers who were there to attack protesters. And yeah, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the carjackers, although they are very young (14 and 16) which perhaps explains why they were driving in circles like madmen. But they went to CHOP thinking that they would be safe from the police there.
 
I'm still going to wait on this.

This ear-witness report doesn't fit the timeline:
Walker told the pair to head to the police precinct in the CHOP zone, telling them, “You will be safe there — nothing will happen to you.”

How is it then they were circling the Cal Anderson lawn well before they ended up at the street barricade? No cars were visible chasing them then. They could have parked the SUV and ran into the tent area.

And why go to the police precinct when that was blocked off to cars? The whole street for a few blocks was blocked off to cars.
 
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I'm still going to wait on this.

This ear-witness report doesn't fit the timeline:


How is it then they were circling the Cal Anderson lawn well before they ended up at the street barricade? No cars were visible chasing them then. They could have parked the SUV and ran into the tent area.

And why go to the police precinct when that was blocked off to cars? The whole street for a few blocks was blocked off to cars.

They're panicked teenagers driving a stolen car. You expect their actions to be calm and reasonable? Maybe they were hoping to keep the car somehow and were trying to find a way to drive the car into the area behind the barricades.
 
They're panicked teenagers driving a stolen car. You expect their actions to be calm and reasonable? Maybe they were hoping to keep the car somehow and were trying to find a way to drive the car into the area behind the barricades.
Not at all. But I expect the evidence we do have to fit with what a witness says if we are to believe the account. She said she was on the phone, told them to go to CHOP then heard the shots. There is no time there for circling Cal Anderson first. Cal Anderson Park is/was part of CHOP in case you didn't know that.

It may turn out the reporters aren't getting her story straight re the timeline.

It may turn out her account is not correct.

I don't know. I'm just saying I'm not ready to conclude what happened here except it was tragic no matter what happened.
 
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Oh, you would be horrified if you knew how the rest of the world views the US.

The powerful and influential rarely care about what the weak and insignificant think.

Tell China that it's "weak and insignificant". Go on, I dare you.


So you think China is the "rest of the world". :boggled:

Let's face it - the countries you and I live in have no influence at all on the world stage. The vast majority of the other countries in the world have no appreciable influence on the world either.
We can choose to whine and complain and stamp our feet and howl at the moon - but nobody in the US cares. They have amply demonstrated that fact for decades.
 
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Not at all. But I expect the evidence we do have to fit with what a witness says if we are to believe the account. She said she was on the phone, told them to go to CHOP then heard the shots. There is no time there for circling Cal Anderson first. Cal Anderson Park is/was part of CHOP in case you didn't know that.

It may turn out the reporters aren't getting her story straight re the timeline.

It may turn out her account is not correct.

I don't know. I'm just saying I'm not ready to conclude what happened here except it was tragic no matter what happened.
Pardon the sketchy source, but down the page is video of the ear witness.
 
I like how you so effortlessly skip from one arbitrary condemnation of the protesters to another when your first one is proven objectively wrong.

Do you think it's a simple coincidence that a "police free zone" in the middle of a city attracts gangbangers who shoots it out on the streets or carjackers trying to flee with the car they stole?

I mused about bikers before, but I guess it was just typical street gangsters who were drawn to the place.
 
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Since we're showing some love to The Daily Mail and CHOP finally got the axe.

Driver plows through Seattle protesters leaving one woman in critical condition three days after CHOP was torn down

So what have we got here, a Charlottesville type terrorist attack ? Klan ? Nazis ? Both of the victims were female presenting so there's the misogynist angle to consider.

ETA Go Fund Me for white female presenting person, still nothing for that black murdered by CHOP security. This is white privilege in action folks.
 
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Since we're showing some love to The Daily Mail and CHOP finally got the axe.

Driver plows through Seattle protesters leaving one woman in critical condition three days after CHOP was torn down

So what have we got here, a Charlottesville type terrorist attack ? Klan ? Nazis ? Both of the victims were female presenting so there's the misogynist angle to consider.

ETA Go Fund Me for white female presenting person, still nothing for that black murdered by CHOP security. This is white privilege in action folks.
What black murdered security?

What we have here is road rage plus white racist, (maybe white supremacist) attitude.
 
What black murdered security?

What we have here is road rage plus white racist, (maybe white supremacist) attitude.

That's by Chop security, you missed a word. It wasn't that long ago almost a week but I know there's a want among good liberal people to forget when CHOP security went psycho with their assault rifles and committed the extrajudicial murder of Antonio Mays, Jr.

What do I mean by going psycho ? Well this guy Marty Jackson, a volunteer medic in the CHOP says "that about 300 rounds were fired in the CHOP over Monday morning".
 
One of the women hit by the road-rager on the freeway has died. 24 years old.

From the video that the news media keeps stopping at the point of impact, he hit her straight on. She didn't even have time to try to get out of the way.

The police are now stopping protesters at the onramps and off ramps before they can get on the freeway to stop traffic.
 
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