PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

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Anyway, PartSkeptic, you seem to have missed this one again:
PartSkeptic, what is the reason for your suggested protocol including taking measurements? Why do you require “more instrumentation” to carry out a test that involves having a modem turned on or off and you deciding, using nothing more than your own senses, which it is?


Any chance of an answer?
 
I know what standard of evidence is required.

That's as may be, but you're unwilling to meet it. You're even unwilling to meet the lower standard of evidence your critics said they would accept.

What I also know that even if Jesus testified as an expert witness I could not win in the Courts of Justice.

You claim this, but you're unable to reconcile it with the evidence you yourself provided that the courts acted according to the evidence in your case.

I am aiming at the Court of Public Opinion to show how corrupt and captured the SA system is.

You lost, so you're on a tirade to spread propaganda. Why should you think that would impress skeptics? Earlier you claimed the science was incontrovertible, and you asked us to evaluate it scientifically. Now you're pretty much admitting that you're really just on a political crusade. You need to decide what it is you're really trying to do. Of course you don't want to do an experiment. It might derail the crusade.

And prove the harm of EMF in that forum.

You're looking for a forum that validates your belief, even if you have to keep lowering your standards. That's not science or law. That's just narcissism. In a weird way, I suspect you feel this forum validates your belief because you can claim persecution at the hands of people you're falling all over yourself to claim are working for The Enemy. This forum makes you relevant when no other forum will.

The tests will happen. On my own time and terms. And not because of attempts here to pressure me by shaming and taunts.

You agreed to do the test on terms we all agree upon.. Then you backed out. You were cordial until it looked as if the test was actually going to happen. You were only content with the idea when it was a vague, abstract proposition.

I do not need a double blind test to know the radiation affects me and how.

Then you don't know what standard of proof is required.

You guys do.

No, it's not personal. That's just how science works on questions like this. It's not a case of PartSkeptic v. The Meanies at ISF. It's a case of your unwillingness to attempt even a small amount of dispassionate criticism against something you very much want to believe.

But even then you have been explicit about not accepting the results for a number of reasons - even before the tests are done.

The "number of reasons" are the fairly obvious attempts on your part either to muddy up or cheat the experiment, which are excellent grounds not to accept the results, whatever they may be. We state our objection before the fact so that you can know it's on methodological grounds and simply not because we didn't like the answer.

You refuse to do the test not because you fear it lacks scientific merit -- you don't care about science -- but because you're afraid you might fail. I pointed out how this sort of thinking has run in your family. Other people in your family believed themselves to have extraordinary ability, but refused to be tested. When they finally were, they failed.

The negativity on this thread...

Oh, get over yourself. The "negativity" on this thread is why you're here. You're looking to be challenged by skeptics so you can whine about how persecuted you are. We stopped buying it years ago. If you really hated the response you're getting here, you'd stop coming. But you come here year after year to boast, and then play the palooka.

Attack and slander anyone with a different opinion.

You are being challenged because you have made claims you refuse to prove. They are not opinions, but rather allegations of fact. Challenging controversial ideas what skeptics do, and that's why you're here. We participate because we enjoy critical thinking. You participate because you seem to enjoy being persecuted and whining.

As for perceived slander, you vaunt yourself in ways that are simply not true. Showing the evidence that they are not true may hurt your ego, but it's not slander. You are not entitled to a falsely positive reputation.

I now think that EMFs have affected the world much more than it realizes. People do not understand the changes. They know something is wrong. They blame everything but EMFs. People are stressed and depressed. Their thinking is negative. Their logic is impaired. Their physical health is declining. Hence the need for a God created "clean-up".

Tell it to the Marines.
 
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It is because you insist on being this level of wrong that your credibility evaporates.

It's a pretty ham-fisted pivot attempt. That is, he's straw-manned the claim to say that there's no one written document that can be cited, and pretending the claim his critics made was that the UK was equivalent in that respect to a single-document-constitution country like South Africa. Half the battle with PartSkeptic is just trying to get him to address something besides the fantasy argument playing out in his head.
 
I said early on the pandemic would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. That is happening. Did anyone predict that aspect of this pandemic. No. To quote a high-up official "No-one saw this coming". Wrong. I did.

Wait...what? 'Did anyone predict that aspect"? Yes, yes, pretty much everyone knowledgeable did. This is practically a textbook pandemic situation. The current incoming White House team was presented with a training scenario very close to it. Doctors, the CDC and scientists have been talking for years about the major threat posed by a disease with low initial symptoms being able to spread rapidly. There's a flippin' flash game on Kongregate that went up in 2009 that clearly demonstrates this.

I don't know specifically what "high-up official" you are quoting, but the one I'm aware of who did say it is the blithering moron in the White House. As usual, he was completely wrong and completely inept on the topic.
 
Back to my prediction that the pandemic is going to impact the global system very badly and lead to systemic changes to stop over-population.

I said early on the pandemic would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. That is happening. Did anyone predict that aspect of this pandemic. No. To quote a high-up official "No-one saw this coming". Wrong. I did.
Your high up official is lacking a clue. The experts have been predicting this for decades.

Ninja'ed!
 
Hm, should I trust you on that point? Or the UK Supreme Court? Which of you two should the world consider the expert on the subject? Since the PM accepted the judgment of the court -- which was predicated entirely on constitutional grounds, citing many of the documents they regard as belonging to the constitution -- and apologized to Her Majesty on that basis, I guess they have him fooled too.

This. This is what we mean. You're literally unable to consider the possibility you might be wrong on any subject.

Absolutely.
It's the same thing with this court case. PartSkeptic maintains that the tower was not switched off, and everyone that says it was is lying, because his symptoms persisted during this period.
The other possibility, that the towers were indeed switched off, and that therefore his symptoms are not, in fact, related to EMF, simply hasn't occurred to him.
Just to add to your other point: PartSkeptic, I am not saying you are stupid, or ignorant, or incompetent. I am just suggesting that you might be mistaken.
 
Since part of the thread is harm by big companies who use the courts to get their way, this is both funny and educational.

Tobacco: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
19,329,037 views
Feb 16, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8

It is also a reminder of how companies promote their product to get profit before health. And the dumb public are taken in.

The remark by the tobacco executive admitting that while smoking by pregnant woman caused smaller babies, some women might prefer smaller babies. :eek:

To which I add, while EMFs cause brain-damage, the elite prefer a dumber population because they will be less trouble. Give them their opioids, marijuana and their cell phones.

The irony is that the world is using more cell phones because of Covid-19 and this in turn causes more deaths. And probably more flu mutations - such as the new H1N1 G4 just waiting to be mutated in humans with lowered immune systems. Another irony is that the curse "May you live in interesting times" also comes from China.
 
you write this paragraph earlier:

I said early on the pandemic would be sneaky and have a stealth spread. That is happening. Did anyone predict that aspect of this pandemic. No. To quote a high-up official "No-one saw this coming". Wrong. I did.

As you 'said early on' means that you didn't predict it.
 
Absolutely.
It's the same thing with this court case. PartSkeptic maintains that the tower was not switched off, and everyone that says it was is lying, because his symptoms persisted during this period.
The other possibility, that the towers were indeed switched off, and that therefore his symptoms are not, in fact, related to EMF, simply hasn't occurred to him.
Just to add to your other point: PartSkeptic, I am not saying you are stupid, or ignorant, or incompetent. I am just suggesting that you might be mistaken.


I had a meter which is totally reliable. My wife got symptoms and asked me to measure. The meter is directional so there was no doubt. The reading showed it was operating at full power (about 3,000 uW/sqm). Even if every tower in the area was at full strength the value could never be above about 4 uW/sqm because of the inverse square law. I only had severe symptoms afterwards. Now how can I be mistaken?

Do you not realize that you jump to bad conclusions because of your bias?

The judge said he accepted the metering companies evidence because they are a big corporate and as such they were the better witness. :jaw-dropp

I will be laying a police complaint of statutory perjury because the "evidence" the company provided DOES show the tower had to be on for 36 hours during the month of January 2019. They distorted the graph so it was not immediately obvious but a careful analysis makes it clear. You know how the magician does the trick - he tells you what he wants you to see. The power company invoice will also show 36 hours of power instead of 1 hour of testing.

The judge did not follow the law - which was that in such cases where people offer contradicting evidence on such a critical point he should have asked for verbal testimony or further evidence. But wait. This issue is not dead - far from it. You may even read about it in the media.
 
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To which I add, while EMFs cause brain-damage, the elite prefer a dumber population because they will be less trouble.
"The elite" evidently prefer to be dumber themselves too, and for their parents, children and friends to also suffer brain damage.

Do you ever stop to think through the implications of any of the nonsense you spout?
 
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It's a pretty ham-fisted pivot attempt. That is, he's straw-manned the claim to say that there's no one written document that can be cited, and pretending the claim his critics made was that the UK was equivalent in that respect to a single-document-constitution country like South Africa. Half the battle with PartSkeptic is just trying to get him to address something besides the fantasy argument playing out in his head.


And do you think your post is a sincere attempt to help me?

Am I deluding myself that you are being insulting?
 
It is because you insist on being this level of wrong that your credibility evaporates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom


Your link:

The neutrality of the style of writing in this article is questioned.

The UK constitution is not contained in a single code, but principles have emerged over the centuries from statute, case law, political conventions and social consensus. In this sense, it can be said that the United Kingdom does not have a constitution or a basic law.


It either does or it does not. My statement is either true or false. It is not a Schrodinger Cat. My statement is true despite your attempt at spin.

You did say you are bathed in radiation. Your confused thinking may be a symptom of too much emf. Or maybe you are just that way.
 
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"The elite" evidently prefer to be dumber themselves too, and for their parents, children and friends to also suffer brain damage.

Do you ever stop to think through the implications of any of the nonsense you spout?


I did think of it. And you quite rightly picked it up. The elite are not part of a conspiracy. I was stating an opinion of what I think is "class think". They do not realize they are at risk, although some do. They do not have towers nears them because they do not fit into the elite suburb.
 
And do you think your post is a sincere attempt to help me?

No, it was a sincere attempt to analyze and rebut your argument. I pointed out that it was a straw man, in that it attributed an argument your critics that they had not, in fact, made. But it evidently was an argument you felt would be easier to answer. I further noted that this is a common way for you to respond to your critics. All of that falls under the umbrella of critical thinking.

Am I deluding myself that you are being insulting?

Report the post and find out for yourself. Otherwise stop trying so very hard to be a victim. The whining does grow so very tiresome...
 
It either does or it does not.

No. The article quoted, and the discussion that ensued among us prior to the quote, addressed the question of a constitution being a nuanced concept. That persists, despite your narrow thinking.

My statement is true despite your attempt at spin.

Citing authority that disputes you is not "spin." The best you can come up with is a passage that emphasizes the ambiguity you're trying to very hard to pretend doesn't exist.

You did say you are bathed in radiation. Your confused thinking may be a symptom of too much emf. Or maybe you are just that way.

You haven't shown anyone else's thinking is confused. You've just issued an edict and demanded that you must be right. In that sense you falling into the pattern of ill reasoning that several have noted: if you think a thing, it must be true even if incontrovertible fact says otherwise.
 
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