Moderated "So I hear you're a transphobe now!": Twitter closes Graham Linehan's account

[Babbylonian]

Never mind. Having a dissenting opinion on threads like this is pointless....

Oh noes! People disagree with your opinions? You poor dear.

 

[Belz...]

Yeah, getting rid of trolls makes Twitter a more enjoyable platform.

Disagreeing about the definition of the word "gender" is neither trolling nor transphobic.

Get a grip.

I think he's a special case, banning him would be very tricky.

Exactly. Their principles can be sacrificed when it's convenient.

Mmmm hmmm. Twitter and ISF are cruelly persecuting your free speech.

Translation: "Ha ha ha! WE have the power now!"

 

[TragicMonkey]

Translation: "Ha ha ha! WE have the power now!"

If that were true then whole threads wouldn't exist, and there'd be a lot of deleted posts, and bannings and suspensions for disagreement.

And yet, that's not happening.

What's happening is some people are upset to find their views aren't as popular as they imagine they are.

 

[Manger Douse]

No. As was pointed out above there are plenty of others Tweeting things such a cabal would be suppressing if they existed. Even in your own example, they allow another account to post exactly what Trump does--if he were the one very special exemption to their "woke" crusade they'd have kept the duplicate banned.

They only un-banned it because the hypocrisy was pointed out by many many people - the same way accounts are brought to the Twitter Woke Cabal in the first place - by many many people reporting it to them. If person X Tweets something nasty to half a dozen followers and a dog on a string it doesn't come to their attention

 

[angrysoba]

Never mind. Having a dissenting opinion on threads like this is pointless....

Huh? Why?

If you're putting yourself forward as a dissenting voice, then you can't very well complain that people aren't agreeing with you. That goes with the territory.

I haven't made up my mind about what I think of Graham Linehan's situation.

I take it that he is of the opinion that trans-gender people are delusional about their gender, is that correct?

If he is merely stating his opinion of that, then I don't see why he was banned. If his behaviour is some form of harassment of individuals, then I can see why he was banned.

Do you know which it was?

 

[TragicMonkey]

They only un-banned it because the hypocrisy was pointed out by many many people - the same way accounts are brought to the Twitter Woke Cabal in the first place - by many many people reporting it to them. If person X Tweets something nasty to half a dozen followers and a dog on a string it doesn't come to their attention

It can't be much of a powerful cabal exerting mighty control over speech if they are easily swayed by people complaining.

It amazes me that people think they're being persecuted by powerful forces but also that said forces must back down if someone complains to the manager or threatens to tell the BBB. "I am the victim of unholy powers of great might! But I won after all, because I'm just that great and I said a mean thing about them on my Facebook feed so they caved!"

Getting your way proves you aren't the victim of powerful enemies. If they really existed and really had power you wouldn't have won.

 

[Garb]

Yes. Let's get rid of anyone you disagree with. That's the way to foster open communication......

That's not at all what I am saying.

 

[angrysoba]

Personally, I wouldn't ban people for any type of opinion, however nasty it is. And I definitely wouldn't prosecute for it, which unfortunately is becoming common.

I think that transphobic opinions, Holocaust denial, racism, bigotry of all kinds should be protected speech.

If, on the other hand, people are specifically being targeted or being made targets through incitement of others to do physical violence, or if there is harassment involved then I think it is easy to make the decision to ban someone (or in more serious cases bring in the old Bill).

Actually, this is where Linehan comes up against a charge of hypocrisy as he was in favour of seeing that guy with the Nazi dog prosecuted (IIRC). His excuse that he, Graham Linehan not suffer consequences for his opinions, and the Nazi pug guy facing consequences (including legal ones), is that he, Graham Linehan, has the right kind of politics, and Nazi pug dog guy does not.

 

[Manger Douse]

It can't be much of a powerful cabal exerting mighty control over speech if they are easily swayed by people complaining.

It amazes me that people think they're being persecuted by powerful forces but also that said forces must back down if someone complains to the manager or threatens to tell the BBB. "I am the victim of unholy powers of great might! But I won after all, because I'm just that great and I said a mean thing about them on my Facebook feed so they caved!"

Getting your way proves you aren't the victim of powerful enemies. If they really existed and really had power you wouldn't have won.

No - it took *Many many* people complaining that someone merely copying the presidents tweets shouldn't be banned, something I think is pretty cut and dry - where the Woke Twitter Cabal come in is with the edge cases that don't get as much attention

 

[Arcade22]

No, not silly. Pointless in the prevailing hive mind of this forum. Where long standing and brilliant members like Rolfe and others are dismissed for not toeing the line.

No it's more about the insane delusions they have. Like how they believe that in Canada trans-women can get away with severe sexual harassment, including taking pictures of naked minors in public changing-rooms. There's nothing that can be done about that in Canada, because as soon they say that they identify as female no one dares stop them out of fear of being called transphobic.

 

[mumblethrax]

I can't get over the BBB thing. Holy ****, he reported Twitter to grandpa Yelp.

But yeah, the idea that Twitter is run by a cabal of woke activists is some high grade reds-under-the-bed *********. There probably is a values divide here, but it's just generational. The average age of a Twitter employee is like 17, the typical Twitter user is in the 25-34 range, whereas the median age on this forum is 104. Don't get me wrong, I love that. I come here to feel young again.

 

[angrysoba]

No it's more about the insane delusions they have. Like how they believe that in Canada trans-women can get away with severe sexual harassment, including taking pictures of naked minors in public changing-rooms. There's nothing that can be done about that in Canada, because as soon they say that they identify as female no one dares stop them out of fear of being called transphobic.

Um...what? How is it allowed that adults can take pictures of naked minors in public changing rooms?

I mean, how would it be okay for a grown woman to do it any more than for a grown man?

 

[TragicMonkey]

No - it took *Many many* people complaining that someone merely copying the presidents tweets shouldn't be banned, something I think is pretty cut and dry - where the Woke Twitter Cabal come in is with the edge cases that don't get as much attention

Okay. There's a mighty cabal on a crusade of persecution, but for now they only stick to the shadows because they're afraid of being complained about. But one day soon they'll strike out to seize Poland, slay the Jedi, and from hidden machine gun nests mow down the righteous Karen as she waddles toward the manager.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Disagreeing about the definition of the word "gender" is neither trolling nor transphobic.

Get a grip.

Twitter disagrees. They have decided deliberately misgendering people is not behavior they want on their platform.

Not sure why Glinner is acting shocked by this. His behavior has been the cause of repeat suspensions. Absurd reasoning or not, he had to have known this was coming sooner or later as he continued to act the same way.

 

[Manger Douse]

Okay. There's a mighty cabal on a crusade of persecution, but for now they only stick to the shadows because they're afraid of being complained about. But one day soon they'll strike out to seize Poland, slay the Jedi, and from hidden machine gun nests mow down the righteous Karen as she waddles toward the manager.

Well there not sticking to the shadows are they, hence this thread and as I said it's not them being complained about, its the tweets brought to their attention.

Do you still think there's no difference between the subject of this thread and Donald Trump when it comes to being banned from Twitter or was that another zany joke?

 

[ponderingturtle]

No, not silly. Pointless in the prevailing hive mind of this forum. Where long standing and brilliant members like Rolfe and others are dismissed for not toeing the line.

Yep mild disagreements on how one answers the Jewish question are not treated as the minor political disagreements that they truly are.

 

[Arcade22]

Um...what? How is it allowed that adults can take pictures of naked minors in public changing rooms?

I mean, how would it be okay for a grown woman to do it any more than for a grown man?

Because being accused of transphobia is invariably a death sentence in Canada. Death squads of the pro-trans lobby are known to summarily execute anyone who is accused of transphobia.

So no one dares do anything about it, no matter what trans-women do, out of fear that they might call them a transphobe.

 

[Belz...]

If that were true then whole threads wouldn't exist, and there'd be a lot of deleted posts, and bannings and suspensions for disagreement.

And yet, that's not happening.

Wow, talk about missing the point.

 

[Belz...]

Twitter disagrees.

Well, obviously. The whole topic of the discussion is whether their policy makes sense or not. I'm pointing out to you that I think it isn't, since you seem to think that it is.

 

[angrysoba]

Because being accused of transphobia is invariably a death sentence in Canada. Death squads of the pro-trans lobby are known to summarily execute anyone who is accused of transphobia.

So no one dares do anything about it, no matter what trans-women do, out of fear that they might call them a transphobe.

Let me guess. This is taken from Linehan's latest sit-com script and he thinks it is persecution that stops it getting turned into a series.