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Jogging in Georgia while black.

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Thermal said:
For the same reasons we analyze RFK's murder, or John Lennon's, or President Kennedy's, or Eric Garner's (another one for your lie collection, btw, that cop MURDERED Garner): discussing the variables that could have produced a better outcome.
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Oh good lets talk about all the mistakes Lennon did that got him killed. Being famous for one was ultimately a mistake if he lived a quiet life he might still be alive. That is why people shouldn't be musicians with out understanding the risks.
 
One other thing strikes me that may be rather an aggrieving factor: Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect an ex-cop to know the law with respect to citizens arrest? This one seems irresponsibly ignorant of it.

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Mike! said:
How about a third option? I would have liked him to run the heck away from them, maybe through a yard (Trespassing? Who freaking cares, your life is in danger!) or towards a home where he could have beat on a door while screaming, "Help, there's two crazy crackers with guns after me! Help! Someone call the police!" I'd rather be reading a humorous story about a couple dumb rednecks driving their truck into a neighbors swimming pool, while chasing an innocent jogger, than the one we're discussing now, any day of the week.
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Then of course the guy in the house legally kills hims for banging on the door, and then no one did anything wrong.

But at least his trespassing would then of course justify these people having their fun with the citizens arrest.
 
Carlotta said:
It seems to me that, if he had cut and run, they'd have shot him for trespassing as soon as he set foot on someone's yard/property.
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That's exactly right. Additionally, if he just simply stops and doesn't move a muscle they will shoot him for loitering.
 
whoanellie said:
What makes you think the buddy posted it?
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Per your own link upthread. People who do the recordings on their devices tend to be the only ones who can post them. I mean, unless his...what, phone got stolen?

Or are you suggesting police leaked it, or what?
 
Dave Rogers said:
One other thing strikes me that may be rather an aggrieving factor: Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect an ex-cop to know the law with respect to citizens arrest? This one seems irresponsibly ignorant of it.

Dave
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The opposite, IME. Cops think they are untouchable. Probably more so in good ol' boys Georgia.
 
whoanellie said:
What makes you think the buddy posted it?
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The lawyer for the victim's family posted it.

I don't know how he obtained it. (i.e, was it part of a discovery process, or directly from the person who made the video.)
 
Thermal said:
Per your own link upthread. People who do the recordings on their devices tend to be the only ones who can post them. I mean, unless his...what, phone got stolen?

Or are you suggesting police leaked it, or what?
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There's some interesting speculation going around about that.

The video was posted online anonymously.

It's hard to imagine the filmer posting it himself, as it implicates him in a potential murder, and less evidence makes it easier for their version of the story.

I read some rumors that some of the men were pretty much bragging about the incident, and perhaps this video was spread as part of that bragging.

I couldn't find any real source for that, but you have to wonder how this got out.

I suppose it's possible the police had a copy of the video and some cop leaked it to undermine the cover-up.
 
"Radio station" is a weird 3rd party conduit for this video to make it from basically anywhere to "the public" though. It's just not your usual "We have sources" kind of place.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
There's some interesting speculation going around about that.

The video was posted online anonymously.
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I read that it was released by the lawyer, although perhaps he simply obtained it after it was anonymously posted online.
 
Thermal said:
Per your own link upthread. People who do the recordings on their devices tend to be the only ones who can post them. I mean, unless his...what, phone got stolen?



Or are you suggesting police leaked it, or what?
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The story I posted named the individual who filmed the video not who made it public.
 
misinformation from a Glynn County detective

"Wanda Cooper, the victim's mother, said Wednesday that when she first learned of her son's death, a Glynn County detective had told her that Arbery had been involved in a burglary and was confronted by a homeowner who shot him.

"Cooper said it wasn't until days later that she learned that Arbery had been gunned down in the middle of the road while jogging." NBC

Amazing, and not in a good way.
 
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"Wanda Cooper, the victim's mother, said Wednesday that when she first learned of her son's death, a Glynn County detective had told her that Arbery had been involved in a burglary and was confronted by a homeowner who shot him.

"Cooper said it wasn't until days later that she learned that Arbery had been gunned down in the middle of the road while jogging." NBC

Amazing, and not in a good way.
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That person needs to be charged with obstruction of justice.
 
I'm still not over that:

- We saw a black guy running through the neighborhood
- So we assumed him to be the burglar who had recently been operating in the neighborhood.
- So we armed ourselves
- Then we got in our truck to run him down.
- He had the nerve to fight back
- So we killed him.
- All of this took place in broad daylight and was even filmed

Are the facts that aren't in dispute and still it's like "Well not let's not be too hasty in arresting them, lets convene a Grand Jury at some point in the future maybe when we get around to it..."

Hey here's a radical idea. Someone citizen arrest them.
 
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Thermal said:
I would expect a bunch of adults who value critical thinking could elevate themselves above Twitter discussion and look at multiple angles dispassionately.
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Unfortunately, racist trolls don't tend to value critical thinking all that much.

The only issue here is why two gun-brandishing dudes who murdered a jogger in cold blood, have been allowed to go uncharged for two and a half months?
 
Thermal said:
Also interesting in that article is that police said they had no reports of a string of robberies recently in that neighborhood, and that one of the supposed robberies included the killer's own 9mm pistol, claimed to be stolen from his unlocked car.
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Right, so there are multiple made up stories in an attempt to justify this. You know, the one that holds up best is the one about them being racist rednecks....
 
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