Cont: 2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 3

[Fast Eddie B]

Is the USA a country - yes or no?

“Well, it depends in what your definition of “country” is”.

We’re in Clinton (Bill) territory here.

 

[casebro]

Not out of the question, but you'd have to explain the relatively low numbers coming from S. America where there is a very high hispanic population.

I'm not discounting the possibility of some genetic component, just that I'm not sure I see a correlation at this point.

The genes involved might be specific to new world autosomal groups, specifically the C5 mitochondrial genes. But not likely since those are Asian/Mongolian in origin. And there seems to be a load of Europeans being infected, so you can also disregard the Neanderthal side in the Old World. So if there is a genetic immunity, it's probably random. So more likely, the immunity is environmental.

They do know which receptors are used by some germs, but I don't know how they figured them out.

 

[dudalb]

Worldometer shows U.S. has the most cases.

This is added to our already existing "lead" in active cases and growth rate.

Hey, Trump promised he would make America #1

 

[Trebuchet]

Hey, Trump promised he would make America #1

He's pretty much made it #2, as well.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The number of coronavirus deaths in the UK has jumped by more than 100 in a day for the first time.

The death toll has risen from 475 to 578, health officials have confirmed, with 11,658 confirmed cases.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52056534

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

lol...

To presume that the federal government isn't doing 'anything' while excusing the incompetence of the states is as narrow minded as it comes.

What has the federal government done? How does that compare with what Cuomo has done? Who has more power and resources, a president or a governor?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

What has the federal government done? ..

Besides a couple of $trillion + in relief and aid?

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Besides a couple of $trillion + in relief and aid?

Trump's contribution was signing his name on others' work.

I won't disagree.

 

[The Atheist]

As to the bolded, that's just not true. The USA is as much, if not more, a melting pot than S. America. In S. America the predominant ethnic influence is Spanish and Native American. Not true in the US. We have a mixture from all over the world.

I'm not so sure...

I really don't disagree with the genetic component. I'm just not seeing any strong correlation at this point.

Yeah, it certainly needs more data, and I imagine we'll have a lot more on South America over the next couple of weeks.

Well crap, all of us in Hawaii are some or a lot Portuguese. One more reason we go in the toaster of epidemiology I guess

Haha! I'm trying to get you doomed, one way or another.

Hawaii is sticking out big time against the other states, never mind other countries, and you had to have had early cases with the number of Chinese visitors. You should be right up the list behind Washington state, but it's just not there.

Darwinism is action is a beautiful thing to see....

Yeah, I like that one - 50% Darwin and 50% Karma.

More on those Australian skiers who were infected in Aspen, Colorado. A woman in the group returned to Australia, went to a party and infected at least six people.

Maybe they should read about the 16 yo girl who died in France.

Probably wouldn't matter.

We have arrested about 700 a day for violating curfew, per Prensa
https://www.prensalibre.com/guatema...ue-de-queda-en-guatemala-superan-las-dos-mil/
Not an insignifacant # in a country of 16 million

That's excellent - your government is taking it seriously and actually enforcing the curfew.

In the highly developed nation of New Zealand, we have at least 10% of people flouting the curfew with no arrests so far.

What has the federal government done? How does that compare with what Cuomo has done? Who has more power and resources, a president or a governor?

PLEASE can we take the purely political points to one of the two politics & Covid threads?

 

[Checkmite]

Hey, Trump promised he would make America #1

I guess it's now the American Virus.

 

[Dr.Sid]

I guess it's now the American Virus.

It's just owned by US, it will always be Wuhan virus. Also I liked that a lot more. It used to be the system in the past, we still have Marburg, Ebola, Hanta, Zika .. it was nice, one learned about geography a bit. Suddenly it's not PC.

 

[Checkmite]

It used to be the system in the past, we still have Marburg, Ebola, Hanta, Zika .. it was nice, one learned about geography a bit. Suddenly it's not PC.

I think it's funny that people used to include Spanish Flu in that list when making this complaint, but they had to stop when they were informed that the Spanish Flu originated in the United States.

 

[Darat]

There are many posts, especially regarding the politics of the USA that are off topic. Normally I would close the thread and do a clean up, but that would prevent the on topic discussion for some time and given the seriousness of this topic and how time critical it can be I am only going to post this warning: drop your political point scoring posts and personal attacks, stick to the topic of this thread (look which section it is in for what is on topic or not). Anyone ignoring this warning and continues to post off topic is going to be suspended for a minimum of 24 hours and I'm withdrawing the right of appeal for any such suspensions

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[EHocking]

It's just owned by US, it will always be Wuhan virus. Also I liked that a lot more. It used to be the system in the past, we still have Marburg, Ebola, Hanta, Zika .. it was nice, one learned about geography a bit. Suddenly it's not PC.

The only person I hear using "China" or "Wuhan" virus these days is the US.

The rest of the world rejects such childish idiocy.
US push to include 'Wuhan virus' language in G7 joint statement fractures alliance.

 

[The Atheist]

Meanwhile, the "lockdown" in New Zealand is proving to be a complete joke, and the people flouting it will backfire on all of us, because it will only increase the length of the shutdown.

I went on my perfectly legal trip to the supermarket and passed two different lawnmowing contractors working. Add that to the fact that the harbour was so full of boats yesterday the police issued a general warning, and I can see our epidemic spanning double the time it would need to.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Hawaii quadrupled confirmed cases in a week and now says we have some dead

 

[CORed]

Not out of the question, but you'd have to explain the relatively low numbers coming from S. America where there is a very high hispanic population.

I'm not discounting the possibility of some genetic component, just that I'm not sure I see a correlation at this point.

South America's population is far from strictly Spanish ancestry. Most of the population there is of mixed (Spanish, Native American, African and other European nationalities).

 

[dudalb]

Governor of Mexico: Only the rich can get the Corona Virus. taking the lead from the President of Mexico.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/americas/mexico-coronavirus-luis-miguel-barbosa-intl/index.html

God, it like this idiot and the idiot in Brazil have a contest going as to can be the most ignorant.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Is there a way to fine tune or type in values on the epidemic calculator or does someone know one you can do this on?

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

 

[rjh01]

More on those Australian skiers who were infected in Aspen, Colorado. A woman in the group returned to Australia, went to a party and infected at least six people.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...d-to-aspen-ski-trip-20200326-p54eac.html?btis

It should not have been up to her to place herself in isolation. The government should have ferried all international arrivals in Australia into quarantine for a fortnight. Though luck if some of them were rich or a front bench Government politician. If they had done that then Australia would not have had any cases except imported ones.

ETA. But then that would mean Australia's Government would be far stronger than any other government in the world. So hardly realistic.