Will Trump See Covid-19 as an Opportunity?

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cullennz said:
You mean like Clinton did in her book.

Some of the people she blamed

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Men in general
"This has to be said. Sexism and misogyny played a role in the 2016 presidential election. Exhibit A is that the flagrantly sexist candidate won."
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Men in general?! No, not at all. Trump voters in general - men as well as women. And the reason is obvious: Donald's misogyny problem: How Trump has repeatedly targeted women - Female politicians, journalists and actors have faced his verbal abuse, but the sexual allegations cause the greatest disquiet (The Guardian, Oct. 8, 2016)
 
Venom said:
I do have a tough time picturing how Trump will proceed with the traditional White House tour and deep, stimulating walk in the garden with his successor before handing him the keys.
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The transfer of power from President Donald Trump to President Ivanka Trump will happen smoothly in 2025.
 
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert:
Trump Fears The Coronavirus Crisis Will Spoil His Reelection Campaign

 
It would almost be delicious to find that the evangelicals considered this virus to be God's will in removing Trump were a pandemic to erupt and Trump lose this fall. Being more realistic, knowing that lot they'd be more likely to invoke the Devil's handiwork on behalf of the Godless socialists.
 
Lurch said:
It would almost be delicious to find that the evangelicals considered this virus to be God's will in removing Trump were a pandemic to erupt and Trump lose this fall. Being more realistic, knowing that lot they'd be more likely to invoke the Devil's handiwork on behalf of the Godless socialists.
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Given the age group that seems to be most vulnerable it could well be that he is removed by the virus.
 
Ziggurat said:
The part where Trump goes full retard.
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Where do you place Trump now on the "retard" spectrum?

Do you think he could succeed in what would amount to a coup? No, he couldn't. Do you think he doesn't know he couldn't succeed? Of course he knows. Do you think he doesn't know that he would pay a price for trying and failing? Again, of course he knows. So even with the worst reading of Trump's motives, why would he do something so obviously self-destructive?
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It's weird that you keep trying to map normal human behavior onto Trump.

What exactly is it you see in him that communicates to you that he A) has the ability to recognize his own potentially self-destructive behavior and B) even if he were capable of recognizing this course of action as self-destructive, that he wouldn't proceed with it anyway driven by his own hubris and narcissism?

Please keep your answers specific to Trump's behavior, and not that of a normal person.
 
Meadmaker said:
Zig correctly stated my response to several related queries.
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Okay then, I guess I'll just copy and paste my response to him:

It's weird that you keep trying to map normal human behavior onto Trump.

What exactly is it you see in him that communicates to you that he A) has the ability to recognize his own potentially self-destructive behavior and B) even if he were capable of recognizing this course of action as self-destructive, that he wouldn't proceed with it anyway driven by his own hubris and narcissism?

Please keep your answers specific to Trump's behavior, and not that of a normal person.

Should I await your response or just assume Ziggurat speaks on your behalf?
 
Ziggurat said:
The kicker, though, is that if you actually believed this about how stupid Trump is and how willing to try a coup, you should be looking forward to its inevitable failure and the subsequent dismantling of his legacy, not fearing it. But I suspect you don't really believe it, this is all playing out like it's disaster porn for you.
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I'm not afraid of it at all. I've never expressed fear once in this thread.

Mead and you have gone out of your way to say "don't believe what you hear, believe me when I interpret what he actually means", and I'm guessing you don't think people notice? Whether Trump lies or not doesn't mean his words don't have an impact. They sway the stock market, and the economy in general. People believe the **** he says, and his most ardent followers would have no issue were he to try it. In the cases he's mentioned it, I believe once was at a rally, it was to thunderous applause. Which isn't shocking, it's a rally.

Of course it will fail. I honestly haven't seen people denying that but I've seen a great many say that it wouldn't be out of Trump's norm to see him try. Only you and and Mead seem to repetitiously claim that he wouldn't act in that fashion (well, maybe theprestige is mixed in there somewhere too), which would be in contrast to his entire presidency. The burden of evidence is on you guys, and so far Mead has called people mentally ill while making up ******** excuses as to why he's right, and your argument boils down to nothing more than, "nuh uh, he would not".
 
It's not a derangement to say that Trump has issued illegal orders to get his way - the Mueller Report has documented that he has.
The fact that Trump hasn't managed to hire enough (and competent enough) henchman to carry out his autocratic orders doesn't make him less of an autocrat.

It's not Trump holding Trump back from becoming a Dictator.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
It's not a derangement to say that Trump has issued illegal orders to get his way - the Mueller Report has documented that he has.
The fact that Trump hasn't managed to hire enough (and competent enough) henchman to carry out his autocratic orders doesn't make him less of an autocrat.

It's not Trump holding Trump back from becoming a Dictator.
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He's only accomplished the first syllable so far.
 
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