Will Trump See Covid-19 as an Opportunity?

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eeyore1954 said:
He may not quietly accept a close loss but I don't think he would do anything other than legal channels to contest it.
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He is working on delegitimizing the supreme court, so if Ginsburg and Sotomyor are in a 5/4 majority against him that would be easy get his supporters to go along with ignoring it.
 
Meadmaker said:
Fair enough.

I think that is far fetched, but not nuts.
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As opposed to the senate endorsing the extortion of our allies for political bribes, that was of course always in the cards and never would be thought of as far fetched.
 
I think it's likely that baby will fuss when and if denied the candy, but I think it's unlikely the adults will give baby the candy.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I think it's likely that baby will fuss when and if denied the candy, but I think it's unlikely the adults will give baby the candy.
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Yea like Mitch is suddenly going to grow a spine to say "no candy for you!". So who exactly is this supposed adult?
 
Clinton derangement syndrome is about the closest parallel if you ask me, with the death list and what not. There was even a small fringe worried he'd declare martial law and thus stay in office. I admit, that had less cause than Trump derangement but this is still Trump derangement. It would take far too many accomplices to actually have Trump stay in office despite losing.

I do worry that he will once again win by a close margin in the electoral college which will result in lots of folks who thought he might refuse to leave deciding he clearly cheated. I'm not that worried, because for the most part they will only complain about it on the internet and there will probably only be a few incidents of violence by a few emotionally unstable gunmen and car drivers who probably will engage in some act of violence regardless of the rhetoric they have available to latch onto.

If Trump clearly loses and somehow manages to stay in office for more than a day past his legal term, I will no longer post on this forum and leave the country.

If the republicans in the senate support him in an effort to illegal stay in office, I'll give $100 dollars to progressivechristian.

These promises are void if all comes down to some screw up in Florida though.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
I think it's likely that baby will fuss when and if denied the candy, but I think it's unlikely the adults will give baby the candy.
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If you’re going to use that analogy if the baby fusses enough the baby eventually gets the candy.
 
eeyore1954 said:
If you’re going to use that analogy if the baby fusses enough the baby eventually gets the candy.
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I don't see it happening with this baby and that candy. The consequences to the indulgent adults would be too severe for them to give in.
 
dann said:
I'm not thinking of a business opportunity. The virus is probably going to affect the whole tourist and hospitality industry negatively: travel agencies, airlines, cruise lines, theme parks and hotels.
We also know that he has no idea whatsoever what a virus or a pandemic is.
But he has already stated several times that he might try to stay in office if he is not reelected in November.
Declaring a state of emergency could be the way for him to cancel or postpone the primaries as well as the presidential election altogether - at least until a vaccine is ready if it ever is.
Having to cancel his own ego-boosting rallies might be the only thing preventing him from doing so.
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This fixation with Trump being the epitome of evil has gone from getting slightly out of hand to just plain stupid.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I think it's likely that baby will fuss when and if denied the candy, but I think it's unlikely the adults will give baby the candy.
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I hope that's the case. But the adults in the room so far have been either totally absent, or all too ready to furnish that candy way too many times already.
 
Ziggurat said:
The part where Trump goes full retard.

Do you think he could succeed in what would amount to a coup? No, he couldn't.
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Has anybody ******* claimed he would succeed or was it implied that he would at least try? Same question asked above. Save the straw to feed your horses.

Ziggurat said:
Do you think he doesn't know he couldn't succeed? Of course he knows.
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No, I don't think that because Trump is a narcissistic ******* moron. He believes that doing it would be what America wants. Outside of the traitors that is...

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Do you think he doesn't know that he would pay a price for trying and failing? Again, of course he knows.
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No, I don't think he does know that and until either you or mead provide some form of evidence to support your assertions then you're just barking nonsense. He's openly stated the opposite of what you guys are saying.

Ziggurat said:
So even with the worst reading of Trump's motives, why would he do something so obviously self-destructive?
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Because he's a ******* moron.

Meadmaker said:
Zig correctly stated my response to several related queries.
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Equally as irrelevant and useless as when you did it. Trump has implied the opposite of what you guys are saying. Then you make opposing claims with no evidence, and when all of the evidence is to the contrary, yet somehow still have the balls to imply the people opposing your argument are in the wrong. It's spectacular.
 
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Trump used his Coronia VIrus newsconference to beat up on his favorite whipping boy, the Media.
GOd, the man is incapable of putting his politics and his dislikes aside for one minute.
 
So let us assume that Trump narrowly loses the election in November. He declares that he will not leave office for some reason. The president elect manages to get sworn in anyway, then directs the Secret Service to evict Trump from the White House. Bloodless or not? :)

Ranb
 
smartcooky said:
There might be one named Donald Trump Jr though. I have no doubt that Dump will try to create a presidential dynasty by grooming Junior to become his successor. Of course, he would have to win the Republican nomination first, but I am sure Dump's base would support Junior 100%.
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No, I don't think so. I think that he will learn from Denmark, in this case.
1) Sanders has already based most of his ideas of societal change on Denmark, but most people don't know that
2) Mayor Pete was in Copenhagen in 2016 to study bikelanes and returned to South Bend, Indiana, to implement what he'd learned.
3) It's pretty obvious that Trump is going to appoint Ivanka as his successor before Covid-19 kills him, so:
The law, which passed with 85.4% of the popular vote, eliminates male-preference primogeniture in favour of absolute primogeniture, resulting in sons losing precedence over daughters in the line of succession. The law did not affect anyone in the line of succession at the time of the referendum: the Queen's two children are both male, as is the Crown Prince's eldest child, born in 2005. However, had the referendum not been successful, Prince Vincent, who was born in 2011, would have been higher in the line of succession than Princess Isabella, born in 2007.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Danish_Act_of_Succession_referendum (Wikipedia)
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RecoveringYuppy said:
I was looking more for the last time Trump can change his mind. Eagleton was replaced after the convention. Completely unique example though.
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Good question. I'm guessing there are 51 different answers, but somehow each state has some way of ensuring that a candidate is the "official" nominee of the party. I might Google it.
 
ponderingturtle said:
He is working on delegitimizing the supreme court, so if Ginsburg and Sotomyor are in a 5/4 majority against him that would be easy get his supporters to go along with ignoring it.
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He may not have to do anything.
Covid-19 is bound to kill at least one of the Supreme Court judges for him:

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
AGE DEATH RATE*
80+ years old: 14.8%
70-79 years old: 8.0%
60-69 years old: 3.6%
50-59 years old: 1.3%
40-49 years old: 0.4%
30-39 years old: 0.2%
20-29 years old: 0.2%
10-19 years old: 0.2%
Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths (Worldometers.info)
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