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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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No one believes Trump -
they believe in Trump.

That's a very accurate and well said way of looking at it.

The GOP is living on borrowed time, since their popularity is based on Trump's; it's a Personality Cult, it has nothing to do with Conservatism.

Yeah but watching how much long term damage they can do on their borrowed time stopped being fun a while back.

If Trump wins in 2020 and gets one or two more Evagelical SCOTUS seats that's long term damage that's going to last long past the point that Trump's core cult of personality base move on.
 
I don't think it works like that. Those people don't believe everything Trump says. They believe whatever they want to believe, and don't care (or know) if it's true or not. That said, Trump is very good at saying what some people want to believe.
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100% agreed.

The lie that Mexico would pay for the wall is a good example. Did anyone with more than half a brain actually believe Mexico would cough up billions in order to built Trump's wall? Of course not. But they wanted to believe it so they went with it and cheered the Orange Moron whenever he lied right to their faces.
 
You might wanna recheck what my post was responding to:




Those polls tell you that not only is Sanders not the Dem they will have the toughest time with, he's the current favorite.
Why does that mean the voters in those states won't have a tough time voting for Sanders in the General? Seems like about 70% of them want someone other than Sanders. There's no guarantee that those people will come out for Bernie in the General.
 
I think we've reached peak "Nobody knows the outcome of the general election to 100% metaphysical absolutely certainty, therefore we should go with my candidate" at this point.
 
100% agreed.

The lie that Mexico would pay for the wall is a good example. Did anyone with more than half a brain actually believe Mexico would cough up billions in order to built Trump's wall? Of course not. But they wanted to believe it so they went with it and cheered the Orange Moron whenever he lied right to their faces.

And they still cheer it, even though they know it's a lie.
 
Question: Many people with traditional Medicare also take out "Medigap" supplement coverage. Would that have provided additional benefits here?
No. That only covers the copays, deductibles, etc -stuff you would have been out of pocket for normally. None of the cover additional benefits. The advantage to a medigap plan is that you don't get locked into an insurance company's HMO or PPO plan: you are still on Original Medicare.
According to the linked story, the previous Manor Care rehab facility treated her horribly, including falsifying her records. That's where she contracted the infections that put her back into the hospital and why she needs more rehab. Seems like that's a factor that should be taken into account. It's not like she has terminal cancer.
Well, we really don't know anything about her medical history, only the story told by her family. Hard to say what's correct, medically speaking.

Very few people would understand this kind of subtlety, especially when they are severely ill and their loved ones are scared. Maybe the doctor or somebody should be obligated to explain it all to them. But "Go home and die!" can't be the right answer under any circumstances.
Well, no, that would be a horrible thing to actually say out loud. But in effect, when a patient does not qualify for rehab facilites and they are not expected to recover . . . well, that's exactly what happens.

I would heartily recommend looking at long-term care insurance. Of course, this is useless for this woman now, but either LTC, Medicaid, other specialized programs or basically draining the assets and retirement income is how people pay for assisted living, nursing homes, etc.
 
I believe there can be doubt about the effectiveness of an anti-Sanders Campaign.
- he has a loyal base fully aware of the possible skeletons
- nobody believes Trump
- getting to blame the Media for being biased against your candidate can be quiet cathartic

The only credible threat to Sanders comes from other Democrats.
Beyond that, everyone has already made up their mind m
 
Why does that mean the voters in those states won't have a tough time voting for Sanders in the General? Seems like about 70% of them want someone other than Sanders. There's no guarantee that those people will come out for Bernie in the General.


Sanders is the favorite candidate of the Dems with a plurality; you shouldn't simply dismiss that. If you've got evidence that a significant portion of that 70% will refuse to come out for Sanders I'd like to see it; I can only provide the best evidence I am aware of. You got anything better than pure speculation?
 
You still refuse to acknowledge that these polls are before a massive negative campaign against that commie*.



*Not my personal opinion of Sanders.



I've never refused to acknowledge that. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge that you don't actually know what effect that campaign will have. I think that projection is confusing you yet again. :rolleyes:
 
All these conflicting predictions about Sanders are going to look mighty foolish after President Warren is sworn in.
 
Sanders is the favorite candidate of the Dems with a plurality; you shouldn't simply dismiss that. If you've got evidence that a significant portion of that 70% will refuse to come out for Sanders I'd like to see it; I can only provide the best evidence I am aware of. You got anything better than pure speculation?

He's also the favorite candidate of Trump and the Russians, because they are sure they can beat him.
 
All these conflicting predictions about Sanders are going to look mighty foolish after President Warren is sworn in.

There's already the irony that potentially President Trump risked impeachment to get dirt on someone who (at this moment, shifting sand of the political landscape dutifully acknowledged) is going to wind up being a distant 3rd or 4th runner and was never a legit threat to him to begin with.
 
He's also the favorite candidate of Trump and the Russians, because they are sure they can beat him.


It seems like Trump has been assuming he wasn't going to win the nomination. His comments to Bernie's supporters have sounded like an unspoken "If Bernie doesn't get nominated, won't that make you mad? You should all protest by staying home and refusing to vote for whoever steals the nomination from him, like you did last time."
 
He's also the favorite candidate of Trump and the Russians, because they are sure they can beat him.


As I recall, Clinton pulled some strings to help Trump's campaign in 2016 because she was sure she could beat him, too.

How'd that work out?
 
As I recall, Clinton pulled some strings to help Trump's campaign in 2016 because she was sure she could beat him, too.

How'd that work out?

Badly, for Hillary. But it doesn't always pan out that way. Sometimes the tactic works. Claire McCaskill boosted Todd Akin in the Missouri Senate Republican primary in 2012, and mopped the floor with him in the general election.

So is Bernie a Trump, or is he an Akin?
 
100% agreed.

The lie that Mexico would pay for the wall is a good example. Did anyone with more than half a brain actually believe Mexico would cough up billions in order to built Trump's wall? Of course not. But they wanted to believe it so they went with it and cheered the Orange Moron whenever he lied right to their faces.

FFS, there are STILL people who claim that Mexico IS paying for the wall! Through whatever trade benefit they can invent.

They can't even admit that he lied to their faces, so they have to completely invent a way to cover for it.

(They can't even get away with "he didn't claim that Mexico would write a check" or anything like that, because he exactly DID claim that)
 
You still refuse to acknowledge that these polls are before a massive negative campaign against that commie*.



*Not my personal opinion of Sanders.

Seriously, apparently these polls are in the middle of a massive Russian campaign FOR that commie.

What happens when they turn on him?
 
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