Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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Bob001 said:
The Purge continues:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lates/ar-BB10gacc?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
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FTFY.

Many of Trump's appointees have been actively working to purge the government of people who don't blindly support Trump for years now. Quite literally, we already had rather openly reported government purges, repeatedly, and plenty of things that are just barely short of purges like the EPA's actions to replace independent scientists with industry scientists or get rid of science from the equation altogether... that got swept away by so many other serious and not as serious outrages.

Incidentally, that reminds me of the relevance of this ad.
 
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eeyore1954 said:
I don’t see that it is without precedent or even a great deal of pressure. Although previous administrations have usually preferred the IRS for harassing.
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You speak of Bush Jr, of course, when you speak of the IRS?

Just like Fast and Furious, the Bush Administration left that deeply problematic IRS policy running into the Obama Administration, a fact that shouldn't be forgotten no matter how much the right-wing propagandists try to put all the blame on Obama or falsely claim that it was just them that suffered from it.

Sure, it's a problem that the Obama Administration appointees didn't catch all the bad Bush era policies sooner and end them, but... quite frankly, they had a lot on their plates trying to clean up Bush's messes.

Captain_Swoop said:
IF OUR FORMALLY TARGETED FARMERS NEED ADDITIONAL AID UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE TRADE DEALS WITH CHINA, MEXICO, CANADA AND OTHERS FULLY KICK IN, THAT AID WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, PAID FOR OUT OF THE MASSIVE TARIFF MONEY COMING INTO THE USA!
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Agriculture Secretary Perdue says no farm bailout, Trump says FARM BAILOUT

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue has said, as recently as Thursday no new farmer subsidies. "I would not anticipate" another round of aid Perdue said at USDA's annual Agricultural Outlook Forum in Arlington, Virginia. He said that farmers have "got to farm for the market and what it's telling them and what their capabilities are from a production perspective."
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Checkmite said:
The funny part is that his supporters didn't. At the rally, they resoundingly cheered when he mentioned Gone with the Wind but the same crowd were conspicuously less enthusiastic at the mention of Sunset Boulevard.
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His crowd is more the GWTW type. I wonder how many of them have actually seen Sunset Boulevard. A bit too cerebral for them.

ETA: ninja'd by Trebuchet.
 
So if POTUS died today (I do not wish him harm, this is just a hypothetical).

Would it be somewhat safe to assume that there is nothing you could say or do to drive his approval rating below 40%? Even if every former and current cabinet member came out and said that he was an idiot, that he had neither the desire nor the ability to integrate new facts into his worldview, that his short attention span made every department’s job harder, that he had no idea what he was doing, that he really was trying to shake down Ukraine for personal reasons, that there were more than 300 instances of someone having to say “we can’t do that Mr. President because it violates the Constitution,” that the tariffs on China did not mean the Chinese were paying hundreds of millions of dollars directly into the US treasury; even then his supporters would ignore those claims and insist that he was a wonderful president?

Or am I way off base here?

ETA that his tax returns and business records showed he had close ties to Russia and Saudi Arabia, that he charged the USSS double the going rate on golf cart rentals and rooms.
 
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Ladewig said:
So if POTUS died today (I do not wish him harm, this is just a hypothetical).

Would it be somewhat safe to assume that there is nothing you could say or do to drive his approval rating below 40%? Even if every former and current cabinet member came out and said that he was an idiot, that he had neither the desire nor the ability to integrate new facts into his worldview, that his short attention span made every department’s job harder, that he had no idea what he was doing, that he really was trying to shake down Ukraine for personal reasons, that there were more than 300 instances of someone having to say “we can’t do that Mr. President because it violates the Constitution,” that the tariffs on China did not mean the Chinese were paying hundreds of millions of dollars directly into the US treasury; even then his supporters would ignore those claims and insist that he was a wonderful president?

Or am I way off base here?

ETA that his tax returns and business records showed he had close ties to Russia and Saudi Arabia, that he charged the USSS double the going rate on golf cart rentals and rooms.
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Typical Liberal - just because Trump is too old to live makes him unqualified to be President?
Show me where in the Constitution it says that a President needs to have a pulse.
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Stacyhs said:
His crowd is more the GWTW type. I wonder how many of them have actually seen Sunset Boulevard. A bit too cerebral for them.

ETA: ninja'd by Trebuchet.
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Maybe he should have mentioned Home Alone 2:Lost in New York. Except for the Canadian TV broadcast edition. Those NeverTrumpers cut his part out.
 
Trump Retweeted

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Did you know:
Russia donated over $145,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation
Hillary Clinton sold 20% America’s Uranium to Vladimir Putin
Yet she's calling President Trump "Putin's Puppet," despite the fact that a 3 year, 40 million dollar investigation found no collusion

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
What a coincidence that Russia always happens to support whoever the Democrat party elites are trying to destroy at any given point in time. The seditious morons behind these idiotic leaks aren’t even trying anymore. It’s embarrassing.

JamieR Army Girl Medium starMedium starMedium star TRUMP 88022
@Jamierodr14
BAM!
Trey Gowdy Slams the NYT report claiming Russia is trying to help get President Trump reelected in November.
This was a closed door meeting that was leaked out & he calls out Schiff!
These leakers need to be Removed & Prosecuted!
Agree?

Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
There is no more obvious and pathetic sign of Democrats’ panic about the upcoming 2020 election than the convenient return of the “Russia is meddling in our elections!” hysteria
As crazy as it is predictable
 
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Trump Tweeted

MSDNC (Comcast Slime), @CNN and others of the Fake Media, have now added Crazy Bernie to the list of Russian Sympathizers, along with @TulsiGabbard & Jill Stein (of the Green Party), both agents of Russia, they say. But now they report President Putin wants Bernie (or me) to win.

....The reason for this is that the Do Nothing Democrats, using disinformation Hoax number 7, don’t want Bernie Sanders to get the Democrat Nomination, and they figure this would be very bad for his chances. It’s all rigged, again, against Crazy Bernie Sanders!
 
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So @TeamCavuto has very bad ratings on @foxnews with his Fake guests like A.B.Stoddard and others that still haven’t figured it all out. Will he get the same treatment as his friend Shepherd Smith, who also suffered from the ratings drought?
 
Trump is boasting of his crowd in Vegas. It's a free show! when will you see a stand-up president acting like an idiot and a crowd knee jerking "lock her up" again? For free!
 
Bogative said:
From your link:


The intelligence community said this was part of Russia's plan in the 2016 election. Why not try it again? Democrats were more than willing to do it then, and still haven't stopped, and are more than eager to continue on for another five years.

I just don't understand why Democrats think they are real Americans.
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The Russians helped Trump after Trump colluded with them in 2016.
 
Small update on Bolton's book.

Trump Wants to Block Bolton's Book Until After He Leaves the White House, Calls Bolton a Traitor

But the president has insisted to aides that Bolton's account of his work in Trump's White House, "The Room Where It Happened," should not see the light of day before the November election, according to the two people familiar with the conversations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House deliberations.

Trump has told his lawyers that Bolton should not be allowed to publish any of his interactions with him about national security because they are privileged and classified, these people said. He has also repeatedly brought up the book with his team, asking whether Bolton is going to be able to publish it, they said.

Trump told national television anchors on Feb. 4 during an off-the-record lunch that material in the book was "highly classified," according to notes from one participant in the luncheon. He then called him a "traitor."

“We’re going to try and block the publication of the book,” Trump said, according to the notes. “After I leave office, he can do this. But not in the White House.” “I give the guy a break. I give him a job. And then he turns on me,” Trump added during the West Wing lunch. “He’s just making things up.”
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Why not try it again? Democrats were more than willing to do it then, and still haven't stopped, and are more than eager to continue on for another five years.

I just don't understand why Democrats think they are real Americans.
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Dammit that is some powerful stuff!
 

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Craig4 said:
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...nge-offered-us-pardon-cleared-russia-69075408

What I really love about this story is that after Trump and his Trumptrash former congressman denied it, the moron admitted that he offered a pardon to Assange to clear Russia.
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Can a pardon be revoked? I mean, could Assange testify Russia wasn't involved, get the pardon from Trump, then announce "Nah, they were totes involved LOL"? Is a "quid pro quo" for a pardon legally binding? Or is a pardon an irrevocable thing?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Can a pardon be revoked? I mean, could Assange testify Russia wasn't involved, get the pardon from Trump, then announce "Nah, they were totes involved LOL"? Is a "quid pro quo" for a pardon legally binding? Or is a pardon an irrevocable thing?
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In a sane world? That would probably be legally double jeopardy or some other similar legal concept. So know if Ted tears the tag off a mattress, is pardoned for that one act of tearing that tag of the mattress, he probably (not a legal expert here obviously) not face legal consequences for that same act of mattress tag tearing again.

Functionally? You just wait to until Ted breaks another law, no matter how manner, no matter on how slight of a technicality, and throw the absolute maximum allowable book at him. I kind of get the feeling that if the powers that be have a "Oh crap we shouldn't have pardoned you!" moment they won't have to strain to hard to find something to after you for.

In Trump world? Who knows? The standard caveat of "Trump can do anything he wants until someone stops him and nobody both wants to and is able to stop him" clause is still invokable. If Trump orders Assange seized and thrown in prison... he'll stay there while people scream "But you can't do that!"
 
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