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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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Captain_Swoop said:
At his rally tonight Trump says


What is redemption money?
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I'm going to be generous. It's possible he means remittance money, the money that immigrants send back to their home country. Trump proposed a tax on remittances to pay for the wall, but I'm pretty sure it was never actually implemented.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
From Wikipedia:

"All able bodied men, 17 to 45 of age, are ultimately eligible to be called up into military service and belong to the class known as the reserve militia, also known as the unorganized militia (10 USC). ... All female citizens who are members of National Guard units are also included in the reserve militia pool (10 U.S.C."
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No, no, you don't understand what you, yourself, wrote:
My point was if there is ever a real reason our national militia needs to take up arms, the National Guard will be with us.
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Your above answer says the National Guard will be with the National Guard! No ****, Sherlock.

Let's try again: who is us?
 
Armitage72 said:
I'm going to be generous. It's possible he means remittance money, the money that immigrants send back to their home country. Trump proposed a tax on remittances to pay for the wall, but I'm pretty sure it was never actually implemented.
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How are we going to recognize a cognitive decline in POTUS if this is the baseline?
 
BrooklynBaby said:
All Americans who have guns under the Constitution, specifically the 2nd Amendment. Here is the oath the National Guard takes when sworn in:


"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God."

That means they will not be obeying any order to go out and confiscate arms from citizens by President Quid Pro Joe Biden or anyone else. It would be illegal for them to do so. They will be on our side.
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Having served as an infantry officer in the guard and enlisted in the regular army I can state the following about your post:


Hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!


First problem. One of the reasons the national guard system was created was to make sure that the idea of the officers being loyal to the states before the country would be eliminated. All the officers require federal recognition and training. The funding comes mostly from the Feds and the states themselves generally don't have complete logistics systems to support the troops without federal support. They can act for a while on their own but will need more than a little funding and support troops that come from other components such as the army reserve which does not have state responsibilities.

Second problem. The national guard is not a law enforcement body. They can be used to back up law enforcement but cannot arrest or charge anyone with a crime. Best they can do on their own is detain somebody so that police can arrest them but that is about as far at this goes.

Third problem. They are not on anyone's side. They are not there to play stupid political games. They won't be running around taking guns but they also won't be running around trying to stop legal authorities from any level of government from doing their jobs.

What you have is a fantasy not based on any version of reality.
 
a_unique_person said:
I keep reading that the Dems aren't coming up with a strong alternative to Trump and that he will crush any of their contenders because they are so bad. In what bizzaro world is Trump better than any of them?
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"Better" is relative. It's possible he will be better at incessant propaganda that isn't effectively countered.
 
a_unique_person said:
I keep reading that the Dems aren't coming up with a strong alternative to Trump and that he will crush any of their contenders because they are so bad. In what bizzaro world is Trump better than any of them?
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Only in terms of being electable.

President Trump has a very strong and well defined "brand" with high name recognition.

Too many of the Democratic Party contenders have issues, either they are too old, insufficiently inspiring, are damaged goods (because they can be easily slurred) or some other reason.

Nearly all Republicans will turn out and vote for President Trump and quite a few "independents" who will want to maintain the status quo because life is ticking along OK. OTOH Democratic Party voters need to be wooed. Bernie Bros will not vote for someone they think unworthy; those on the right of the party won't vote for Bernie.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
The idea that Trump will not transfer his office to the winner of the election is complete nonsense based on nothing, just like the Russia Hoax was nothing, emoluments was nothing, Kavanaugh was nothing, etc. My point was if there is ever a real reason our national militia needs to take up arms, the National Guard will be with us. The Democrats need to start thinking about how all of the lies about Trump 24/7 by them
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and their corrupt mainstream media action arm didn't prevent him from being elected, and the Impeachment Hoax made him more popular, not less. It's not just me knowing what we are hearing from them is nothing more than propaganda, but enough Americans to reelect him. I do feel sorry for the poor dupes who have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by fake news and our "educational" system.[/QUOTE]

I’m not going to try to talk you out of your position.
But I do have questions about your position.

If the Dems are lying 24/7, how often is President Trump lying?

Never
About once per month
About once per week
About once per day
More frequently than that.
 
If trump lied i wouldn't listen to him. Would you care to relate some of the lies he has told recently? I'm all ears.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
But you would listen to him if his lies are a month old?
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You got me there. I was actually referencing this, which we never did get any response to.

BrooklynBaby said:
If Rush lied i wouldn't listen to him. Would you care to relate some of the lies he has told recently? I'm all ears.
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thaiboxerken said:
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/
The plurality of what Rush says is false.
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Preeeeettty sure this is going to follow the same pattern.
it's not new that trump supporters refuse to address this in any way, even those verified as actual human americans as opposed to characters online who may or may not be who they purport to be.
 
WOOOOO!!! That means the 49ers won the Super Bowl 20 to nothing!!! Take that you daft state of Kansas!!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

“A lot of people feel defeated...Trump always wins. It seems like nothing can stop him.” Danny Villazon @nytimes @DanaPerino @FoxNews But isn’t that what you want from your President?

Wall Street Journal Editorial: “She (Crazy Nancy) aimed at Trump and hit Uncle Joe.”
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Trump somehow assumes his Hunter Biden conspiracy theory is hurting Biden. But that is not what's hurting Biden. His healthcare plan amounts to giving "regular medicare" to all. It's a huge saving to many, but still leaves insurance companies selling supplements to Medicare. Because Medicare only covers so much, and hospital costs are way more than what it covers.

Anyway, his platform is not much different from Hillary. Same old same old. There is nothing radical or exciting about it. He rarely talks "renewable energy jobs" either.
 
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