2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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BILL MAHER SAYS BERNIE SANDERS IS ONLY DEMOCRAT WITH 'ARMY' OF SUPPORTERS WILLING TO FIGHT AGAINST TRUMP IN THE STREETS

HBO host Bill Maher expressed his fear that President Donald Trump and Republicans will do anything to cheat and win in 2020, saying he's glad Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has "badass" supporters willing to fight fire with fire.

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"I like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. But I feel like, and I have said, someone like Mayor Pete or Amy Klobuchar could win more easily. But I tell you why Bernie Sanders is attractive to me now: because he's the only Democrat, who like Trump, has an army. Who when it gets to this other level, he's got a bunch of badass motherf***ers who will get in the streets," Maher said.
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BrooklynBaby said:
But, climate change!!! The post was meant to point out the hypocrisy of the climate change crowd, the leaders of which seem to only travel around by private jets. I personally don't care if they do it, they are the ones who talk incessantly about carbon footprints and saving the planet. For me, "Do as I say, not as I do" is a non-starter.
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No it wasn't. You mentioned the cost of his travel, not his carbon footprint. If you meant us to view his travel in terms of climate change, you would have said so. This is just after-being-called-on-it excuse making.
 
Biden campaigning in a watering hole in Iowa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo,_Iowa
you go there by tour bus

Pete B. is next door in the metropolis of Cedar Rapids, which has 10 Starbucks stores. Counties that have ZERO Starbucks stores are known to be 80-90% Republican. In the middle and going West of here. In California, a Starbucks has much more power, just one store marks a vast Democratic stronghold.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Acknowledging that there is a problem is a necessary first step.if your campaign depends on the bankrolling of billionaires it is a step you won’t be taking.
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Yes, that goes without saying.

I would rather just say what I want to say
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Then do that. Why all the evasions?

than go through some torturous dance
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Here's my problem with you: you keep calling it a torturous dance and other such colourful things, but it's ONE QUESTION, which you refuse to answer. You can't claim with a straight face that I've been leading you through a maze of pointless questions and platitudes to the point that you've lost patience with me. I asked you ONE QUESTION, and you have spent a LOT of energy protesting that you won't answer it.

And you do that all the time.
 
The whole hang-wringing over "Do I do something effective or follow my values" could be solved by everyone just adopting "Effectiveness" as one of your values.
 
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Belz... said:
Yes, that goes without saying.



Then do that. Why all the evasions?



Here's my problem with you: you keep calling it a torturous dance and other such colourful things, but it's ONE QUESTION, which you refuse to answer. You can't claim with a straight face that I've been leading you through a maze of pointless questions and platitudes to the point that you've lost patience with me. I asked you ONE QUESTION, and you have spent a LOT of energy protesting that you won't answer it.

And you do that all the time.
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Flawed question. Explained at least twice.

Right, we don’t go through a maze of pointless questions because I will only engage with a flawed question on my terms.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The whole hang-wringing over "Do I do something effective or follow my values" could be solved by everyone just adopting "Effectiveness" as one of your value.
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Actually, the biggest part of it really seems to be differing perceptions of effectiveness to begin with. Some people think moderates like Biden would be more effective at winning against Trump. I and some others think Sanders would be more effective instead.
 
numbers games

Bernie Sanders' campaign knocked on 500,000 doors in Iowa in January.

Another goal of the campaign was to make 5 million calls to voters across the country before the Iowa caucuses. They completed that goal in three weeks. The bar was then raised to 10 million calls. Smashed within the next two.

Sanders raised $1.3 million in a day right after getting attacked by a Democratic super PAC.

On February 1, Sanders attended his final rally in Iowa which allegedly drew over 3,000 people.
 
SezMe said:
Why not? The marginal rate was 91% in some pretty good years before Reagan stumbled into the Oval Office.
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Actually JFK lowered the top marginal rate to 70%. It's somewhat amusing that he ran on a platform of lower taxes and increased defense spending; Reagan I.
 
The Sanders campaign is powered by ordinary Americans, not bought by billionaires and their one-percenter interests.


The Donors Powering the Campaign of Bernie Sanders

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont received donations from an estimated 1.4 million people through the end of 2019 — far more than any other candidate in the Democratic primary race, according to fund-raising records filed with the Federal Election Commission. The map above shows his expansive donor base around the country, including in Iowa, whose caucuses will be held on Monday.

Mr. Sanders is powering his campaign with small donations from supporters across the United States, and he collected roughly $95 million from donors in 2019 without holding a single high-dollar fund-raising event.​

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive.../democratic-presidential-campaign-donors.html

NYT had to come up with a separate map to illustrate what was happening with the other runners, such is his dominance.
 
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Tero said:
Biden campaigning in a watering hole in Iowa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo,_Iowa
you go there by tour bus

Pete B. is next door in the metropolis of Cedar Rapids, which has 10 Starbucks stores. Counties that have ZERO Starbucks stores are known to be 80-90% Republican. In the middle and going West of here. In California, a Starbucks has much more power, just one store marks a vast Democratic stronghold.
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At a guess I'd say there are ten Starbucks locations within 5 miles of my home. And I live within the most Republican major city in the country (Phoenix).
 
Sideroxylon said:
The Sanders campaign is powered by ordinary Americans, not bought by billionaires and their one-percenter interests.


The Donors Powering the Campaign of Bernie Sanders

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont received donations from an estimated 1.4 million people through the end of 2019 — far more than any other candidate in the Democratic primary race, according to fund-raising records filed with the Federal Election Commission. The map above shows his expansive donor base around the country, including in Iowa, whose caucuses will be held on Monday.

Mr. Sanders is powering his campaign with small donations from supporters across the United States, and he collected roughly $95 million from donors in 2019 without holding a single high-dollar fund-raising event.​

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive.../democratic-presidential-campaign-donors.html

NYT had to come up with a separate map to illustrate what was happening with the other runners, such is his dominance.
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Those donor maps are really interesting. Thanks for sharing. Seems to me it shows that the people really want a candidate with integrity who will fight for the working class and against corruption, which Sanders and Warren are perceived as the top candidates in that regard.
 
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Sideroxylon said:
Flawed question. Explained at least twice.

Right, we don’t go through a maze of pointless questions because I will only engage with a flawed question on my terms.
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You do understand that calling a single question a "maze" of questions especially after I pointed it out, will not make it look like you're being honest with me, right?

I don't care if you think the question is flawed. I think it runs to the heart of the matter, and since it's the only thing I'm interested about in this discussion, you calling it a maze of questions is simply a lie.
 
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