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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

He was good at procuring young teens, corrupting them, the POTUS, the ex-POTUS and the British Royal Family. That's an asset for a foreign power looking to undermine the status quo and traditional values.

Traditional values? What are you even talking about?
 
Is there some sort of "Who can be the most stubbornly wrong" contest going on this board on that I wasn't made aware of?
 
You don't think sweaty middle-aged men having orgies with young teens in the remotest of bunkers is satanic?

Whatever gets you through the night, Dude, it's all right. It's all right.

Words mean things. You can't just call everything distasteful "Satanic."

This is even ignoring how deep into your own fantasy world this whole thing is.
 
Given your miserable track record in trolling BS on this forum, I'm in.

I'll wager you $100 USD straight up that "we" hear from Ms. Maxwell in the media in the next calendar year. I'll put the money in a trust with another member here if you like. Specifically "we" will hear from Ms. Maxwell, speaking in her own words, in the calendar year 2020, as quoted by a major media source or in a court / law enforcement document like an interview or deposition. Or via Ms. Maxwell or one of her associates' social media accounts.

No, it has to be a live picture of her getting arrested or interviewed. A press release 'statement' by a PR company is not good enough. I don't gamble so it'll have t be whoever loses makes a donation to a charity.
 
carlitos said:
I am willing to wager we will never hear from Ghislaine Maxwell ever again.

Given your miserable track record in trolling BS on this forum, I'm in.

I'll wager you $100 USD straight up that "we" hear from Ms. Maxwell in the media in the next calendar year. I'll put the money in a trust with another member here if you like. Specifically "we" will hear from Ms. Maxwell, speaking in her own words, in the calendar year 2020, as quoted by a major media source or in a court / law enforcement document like an interview or deposition. Or via Ms. Maxwell or one of her associates' social media accounts.
No, it has to be a live picture of her getting arrested or interviewed. A press release 'statement' by a PR company is not good enough. I don't gamble so it'll have t be whoever loses makes a donation to a charity.

That's a hard pass from me then.
 
I suppose if, like some fundamentalists, one believes that everything evil comes from Satan, then everything evil can be called "satanic" even if the perpetrator of the evil is unaware of Satan or officially rejects him. A priest who molests children would be satanic too. Satanism in this sense refers to whose interest is served, rather than the consciousness of the perpetrator.

But for most of us who are standing somewhat to the side of that way of thinking, "Satanic" refers specifically to things that a perpetrator intends to connect with Satan. Satan worshipers are Satanic even if they do good things. Pedophile priests and bible-thumping fornicators are not, they're just evil rotters. To be a "Satanist," one must have intent.

If Vixen means the former sense, that "evil" and "satanic" are essentially synonymous, then there's really nothing to talk about. If the latter, no proof has so far appeared. I suggest that a clarification by Vixen would help.
 
I suppose if, like some fundamentalists, one believes that everything evil comes from Satan, then everything evil can be called "satanic" even if the perpetrator of the evil is unaware of Satan or officially rejects him. A priest who molests children would be satanic too. Satanism in this sense refers to whose interest is served, rather than the consciousness of the perpetrator.

But for most of us who are standing somewhat to the side of that way of thinking, "Satanic" refers specifically to things that a perpetrator intends to connect with Satan. Satan worshipers are Satanic even if they do good things. Pedophile priests and bible-thumping fornicators are not, they're just evil rotters. To be a "Satanist," one must have intent.

If Vixen means the former sense, that "evil" and "satanic" are essentially synonymous, then there's really nothing to talk about. If the latter, no proof has so far appeared. I suggest that a clarification by Vixen would help.

Possibly, but the list of things Vixen appears to believe are Satanic are not, at least to my mind, evil at all.
The ones that spring to mind are:
  • Sex
  • Cushions
  • Sundials
  • Showers
  • Zorro
  • Cockatoos
  • Ancient Egypt
 
Possibly, but the list of things Vixen appears to believe are Satanic are not, at least to my mind, evil at all.
The ones that spring to mind are:
  • Sex
  • Cushions
  • Sundials
  • Showers
  • Zorro
    [*]Cockatoos
  • Ancient Egypt

You're just not looking deep enough into this. Maybe we need one of those conspiracy charts with all of the arrows and names in fonts that are too small to read.

SAN DIEGO — Fred, the comedic cockatoo made famous in the 1970s television series “Baretta,” was stolen from his cage at San Diego Wild Animal Park, police said Wednesday.

The missing cockatoo was one of three that portrayed Robert Blake’s pet in the ABC series about an unconventional cop. The winner of a Patsy--the animal equivalent of an Academy Award--Fred had been performing in shows at the Wild Animal Park for the last six years.

Robert Blake murdered his wife, Bonnie Lee Blakely.
His lawyer was Tom Mesereau.
Tom Mesereau also represented Michael Jackson and Bill Cosby.
All part of the World Satanic Ring.
Connect the dots, sheeple!1!!!1!
 
You don't think sweaty middle-aged men having orgies with young teens in the remotest of bunkers is satanic?

It's only satanic if Satan is involved. People have been having sex for about 400,000 years now without involving Satan.
 
It's only satanic if Satan is involved. People have been having sex for about 400,000 years now without involving Satan.



Indeed. And as many others have already pointed out, a) there are actually far, far easier (and much more logical) ways to explain what went on here than any reference to satanism; b) the whole thing can in fact easily be explained through factors which are wholly unrelated to satanism; and c) there's zero evidence in any case for satanism (in any form) having been any part of the rationale.

Other than that........ :rolleyes:
 

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