2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

[Stacyhs]

And they used to exclude "pre-existing conditions". But they don't (at the moment) so I didn't mention it.

Again, thanks to Obamacare. And they will again if allowed.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Again, thanks to Obamacare. And they will again if allowed.

I didn't say otherwise, did I?

 

[SezMe]

I get it but -- it's the issue of telling people in MI, WI and PA who are happy with their insurance that (1) they won't be able to keep it and (2) the replacement isn't defined. That's a losing proposition.

Yeah, when Warren raised her hand signaling that people couldn't keep their existing insurance, I went *headdesk*. D.U.M.B.

 

[Aridas]

I'll be generous and include all 29 of the people who kind of are or were going after the 2020 Democratic nomination. Seven are not white. Five are women. One is gay.

Again even on the disingenuous over-simplified understanding, the Democrats are manifestly better.

5 are women? Of Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Klobucher, Warren, and Williamson, which of them is not a woman?

 

[SezMe]

So yeah, garbage.

Candidates that you don't think can cut the mustard you think are "garbage". Trump has taught you well.

 

[Brainster]

Health insurance companies used to charge women more than men. Obamacare made that illegal.

Women paid more for health insurance than men because they cost more to insure as they have health issues that men don't. Did you know that women pay less for life insurance because they live longer and for auto insurance because they get into fewer accidents? When are the levelers going to demand those types of insurance become equal?

 

[SezMe]

I just read Harris dropped out.

Now the interesting question is who will Harris voters go to. Blacks who liked her might migrate to Biden.

 

[tyr_13]

5 are women? Of Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Klobucher, Warren, and Williamson, which of them is not a woman?

Ah, right, Klobucher. My mistake.

Now I am bringing up wiki to make sure my 29 count was right.

 

[varwoche]

Warren talks the talk, but has no follow through.

What metric leads to this conclusion?

If she were to secure the nomination, she is going to gallop back towards a centrist position.

Let's hope so. Otherwise a likelihood of four more years of you know who.

She's already retreating from her earlier stance on universal single payer.

She made a big mistake when she signed on to M4A. That's hard to retreat from. Now she's pissing off the fiction fans, and it will be used against her in the general anyway.

Sanders has a track record of not wavering on these pivotal positions. He's rock solid on these issues.

While I can point to at least one instance of Sanders wavering on a pivotal issue -- gun control -- I get the same sense. In general, he doesn't waver. Even when wavering is called for, e.g. nuclear.

 

[SezMe]

Oh geez, six white people up on the main stage and three POC relegated to second-class status. Are the Democrats going to go full nostalgic and hang a "whites only" sign above the stage?

Good idea. Maybe they can borrow the one the GOP uses. Well, except that the GOP one is looking a bit ragged, having been used for more than a century.

 

[SezMe]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/14/congress-diversity-democrats-republicans-photo

The proportion of white men within the Democratic caucus is set to drop from 41% to 38% next year, while the same percentage is set to rise among Republicans from 86% to 90%.

You damn libtards and your boring, irrelevant "facts" give me a pain in the patootie.

 

[Childlike Empress]

5 are women? Of Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Klobucher, Warren, and Williamson, which of them is not a woman?

Warren is Indian.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Now the interesting question is who will Harris voters go to. Blacks who liked her might migrate to Biden.

There are no blacks who liked her. She's Indian as well.

 

[Stacyhs]

I didn't say otherwise, did I?

No, you didn't and I wasn't implying you did. Geez....people on ISF sure are defensive lately.

 

[Venom]

There are no blacks who liked her. She's Indian as well.

I admit that got a laugh out of me.

 

[Mumbles]

They don't care about facts, and only have a cargo-cult understanding of the idea of inclusiveness.

The 2016 Republican Primaries had 19 candidates, two were men of color, one a white woman, and the rest were old white dudes. I'll be generous and include all 29 of the people who kind of are or were going after the 2020 Democratic nomination. Seven are not white. Five are women. One is gay.

Again even on the disingenuous over-simplified understanding, the Democrats are manifestly better.

As much as I dislike these sort of "headcount" things, yes, it's obvious that dems are far better at representing anyone aside from straight, "Christian" white men - and it's obvious that the GOP is openly hostile to other groups.

There was always one massive benefit that Harris brought that I think nobody else did - Harris vs. Dolt 45, on a debate stage. I think she'd destroy him, even worse than Hillary did in 2016. I simply don't don't think that anyone else left has that particular skill - regardless of what you think of anyone's proposals.

Liz Warren is 2nd.

And yes, I'm saying that this should be taken seriously. Would you even bother watching Toupee Fiasco debate Michael Bloomberg? Or rather, do you see most people even caring about this?

Wow, two supposed billionaire white dudes with heavy authoritarian, racial streaks...yeah, not a real interesting debate. Who cares?

 

[Brainster]

I admit that got a laugh out of me.

Actually she is half Indian (India Indian). Her father was Jamaican. I commented a while ago on the irony that if Kamala had been elected, she would have been the second half-black President whose ancestors were not only not slaves, but were slave-owners.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Malarkey Joe Biden signed my email fundraiser appeal today:

"Keep the faith,

Joe"​

Joe, you're not helping yourself.

 

[d4m10n]

Actually she is half Indian (India Indian). Her father was Jamaican. I commented a while ago on the irony that if Kamala had been elected, she would have been the second half-black President whose ancestors were not only not slaves, but were slave-owners.

Nearly any American with antebellum African American ancestry will have ancestors who were slave-owners and ancestors who were slaves.

 

[theprestige]

Nearly any American with antebellum African American ancestry will have ancestors who were slave-owners and ancestors who were slaves.

Harris doesn't have antebellum African American ancestry, as far as I know. Her mother is Indian. Her father is Jamaican. Unless her father descended from African Americans who emigrated to Jamaica, your observation is a non sequitur.