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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

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If Putin can do it, why shouldn't Greta do it as well? That's what these saints do after all.

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I wasn't talking about temperature now.

I was talking about future modeled predictions.

You are mixing what they are reporting and what they are predicting.

I don’t understand. Are you trying to argue that you are not a climate science denier because you only deny some of what climate scientists have to say?
 
I don’t understand. Are you trying to argue that you are not a climate science denier because you only deny some of what climate scientists have to say?

I disagree with one thing they say.

If to you that makes me a climate change denier this is your issue, not mine.

Most other people wouldn't as that don't generalise so stupidly
 
Oh yes, and I agreed that it was a pretty funny story. But ultimately irrelevant to the thread except as an amusing side note.

Considering she's pretty much on ice for the next couple of weeks, there's not many directions this thread can go in. She probably won't make COP25.

Just for fun

Saint Greta
 
Considering she's pretty much on ice for the next couple of weeks, there's not many directions this thread can go in. She probably won't make COP25.
She's still documenting her trip on Facebook and Instagram - presumably by satellite. For example, she noted in today's post that the six people aboard gather for a daily vegan meal.
 
She's still documenting her trip on Facebook and Instagram - presumably by satellite. For example, she noted in today's post that the six people aboard gather for a daily vegan meal.

Yes, I know and tomorrow will be school strike at sea. Pretty boring stuff when held up to this whole time traveler thing, which is all I get when I google her name today.
 
Yes, I know and tomorrow will be school strike at sea. Pretty boring stuff when held up to this whole time traveler thing, which is all I get when I google her name today.
I guess it's hard to be controversial when you're in the middle of the Atlantic.
 
Are you trying to argue that none of the climate scientists are wrong?
It's a matter of science, not a binary right it wrong. It's a progression of gathering evidence and refining what we best know with that evidence. Climate science and it's predictions of global warming has been remarkably accurate.
 
Are you trying to argue that none of the climate scientists are wrong?

Science can always be wrong. Evolution could be wrong, this doesn’t mean the “questions” young earth creationists have about it are valid. The crackpots are always “asking questions” this doesn’t mean they are engaging in skeptical inquiry.

What matters isn’t whether science “could be wrong” but what the evidence says. In this case, there is no evidence to support the belief that CO2 sensitivity is lower than the accepted range. The belief in lower CO2 sensitivity is pseudoscientific because it runs counter to all lines of scientific evidence.
 
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Indirectly related to the greta stuff is another group of folks who want to take the goals of the Paris Climate Agreement to completion a decade ahead of schedule.

This makes sense. That had specific goals and got the related industry on board with those goals early on.

Whether that group gets any traction in moving world governments and industrial might is another question. I hope they can.

If done in cahoots with other things like renewable energy technology being employed it actually could get real results.
 
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Boring now. I will add that to her long list of faults.

This right here is what I'm ridiculing. Not Greta. Not climate change activism. This ridiculous over-earnestness. There's not going to be anything new to report on the Greta front until she completes her sea voyage. The next couple of weeks are going to be relatively boring in that regard. You take this banal observation and mistranslate it into a personal slur against Greta herself. A slur which you must then defend her against. You are not being serious. You're being melodramatic.
 
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