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House Impeachment Inquiry

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Belz... said:
Seems like Sondland decided to not take the fall for Trump.
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I agree, he certainly isn't pulling any punches; however, the most damning stuff is what he's reading from when he turned stuff over. He's throwing Trump under the bus and giving hand signals to backup and go forward a few times.
 
Donal said:
I keep seeing how Sondland's testimony is to Trump what John Dean was to Nixon. The problem is, there was no FOX News back then. There was no incestuous relationship between the GOP and the Falwell type evangelicals back then. Those happened as a result of Watergate specifically top prevent another republican to suffer that fate.

Want to know why I don't think Trump or the republicans will suffer real consequences for this: Iran-Contra. Hell, Watergate itself blew over by the time Carter took office. no one served more than 4 years, if I remember correctly, and they were all just low level operatives. None of the shot callers went away.
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H. R. Haldeman was Nixon's chief of staff. Sentenced to 2 1/2 to 8 years. Served 18 months in prison.
 
Trump's notes to himself, addressing the press before a helicopter trip just a while back:
 

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The Don said:
From that article is an interesting quote which indicates to me what the Trump Administration's next step is likely to be with respect to Vindman:


Later on Ingraham's Tuesday show, former deputy attorney general John Yoo suggested that Vindman could be guilty of "espionage" and might be a double agent.
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Expect those proceedings to begin in parallel with the impeachment so as to try to undermine his testimony.
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They've been working on that since the moment his name came up.

These are all from October.

“Some People Might Call That Espionage.” Conservatives Smear Vindman as Double Agent
The absurd charge that a Soviet Jewish emigre like Vindman is a double agent
Republicans Accuse Colonel Vindman, a Jew Who Fled Soviet Persecution, of Dual Loyalty
 
Belz... said:
Dude, you don't think that's taking things too far? You know that "these scum" are still going to be around in the future, and that you have to live with them in your country, right?
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Nope.
We do not have to suffer these Fascists to live among actual people.

Pile enough of them in the ocean and the rest of the scum can live atop an island of their own rotting corpses.

Anyone supporting the GOP is a traitor to the values of the Enlightenment and is a part of an already extinct sub-species of Homo sapiens.
They have been allowed to persist among actual people for far too long
 
Trump Retweeted

Senate Republicans
@SenateGOP
Read the transcript.

Kevin McCarthy
@GOPLeader
Case closed Ambassador Sondland just testified under oath that he NEVER heard the president say there were conditions on aid to Ukraine.
Democrats' smear campaign is falling apart.

Steve Scalise
@SteveScalise

BREAKING Ambassador Sondland: “I don’t recall President Trump ever talking to me about any security assistance. Ever.”

Mark Meadows
@RepMarkMeadows
What this "bombshell" hearing is amounting to:
Another witness who never heard anything from the President
Reached a nefarious conclusion on his own
Is contradicted by witnesses who actually DID get directives from the President
 
It looks like it's Rudy's turn now.

"I came into this at Volker's request. Sondland is speculating based on VERY little contact. I never met him and had very few calls with him, mostly with Volker."


Sondland who?
 
autumn1971 said:
Nope.
We do not have to suffer these Fascists to live among actual people.
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Newsflash: fascists are people, and yes you do.

Pile enough of them in the ocean and the rest of the scum can live atop an island of their own rotting corpses.
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Anyone supporting the GOP is a traitor to the values of the Enlightenment
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That, however, I can agree with, to a degree.
 
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Sondland hasn't just directly implicated Trump, he's directly implicated Mike Pompeo, Rick Perry & Mick Mulvaney.

They all knew that Trump was trying to to get a public announcement from Zelenskiy about investigations of the 2016 election and the Bidens in return for the release of military aid and support.

Arms for Political Dirt
 
smartcooky said:
Sondland hasn't just directly implicated Trump, he's directly implicated Mike Pompeo, Rick Perry & Mick Mulvaney.

They all knew that Trump was trying to to get a public announcement from Zelenskiy about investigations of the 2016 election and the Bidens in return for the release of military aid and support.

Arms for Political Dirt
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Thing is, this sort of dealing happens all the time. The problem here is that it was done outside of the main channel AND just to benefit the President personally, instead of the country.
 
Huh. Just heard that today is the worst day for the President in his history. (re: the Inquiry with Sondland as guest star)


I'm saving this post because I'll be using it again. Maybe even tomorrow.
 
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