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House Impeachment Inquiry

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quadraginta said:
"Refreshed" as in, "Oh, hell. I'd better see if I can head off the perjury charges.".
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I can see this meeting after the testimony was released:

Sondland: Wait a minute, I thought we agreed everyone was supposed to lie, you mean none of you did? Crap.
 
Originally Posted by Distracted1 View Post
I find it funny that Trumpsters don't realize that when he said "I could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Ave. and not lose any supporters" he was insulting them.
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JoeMorgue said:
I've been saying for a while now that to understand Trump and the Trumpers you have to understand how Trump could stand on stage in Iowa during the campaign, utter the phrase "How stupid are the people of Iowa?" and then win Iowa in a landslide.
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I just saw a Trump supporter asked if she'd still support Trump if he did shoot someone on Fifth Ave. Her answer: Why did he shoot him?

Watch the whole video. It's amazing. The woman in the back row, gray cardigan (Crystal Arlington) is exactly what I think of when I think of a Trump supporter. Some people's ability to rationalize things is amazing.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...ut-voting-for-trump-if-he-shot-someone-on-5th
 
Stacyhs said:
I just saw a Trump supporter asked if she'd still support Trump if he did shoot someone on Fifth Ave. Her answer: Why did he shoot him?

Watch the whole video. It's amazing. The woman in the back row, gray cardigan (Crystal Arlington) is exactly what I think of when I think of a Trump supporter. Some people's ability to rationalize things is amazing.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...ut-voting-for-trump-if-he-shot-someone-on-5th
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"I don't know why [the Ukrainian aid is] going there."

"I don't know that [every President does it] to be true either!"

I love how their arguments are founded on what they don't know, and don't care to know.
 
Armitage72 said:
It's like that woman in Florida, who said in an interview that she was upset because Trump's government shutdown was hurting her and her friends instead off "the people he needs to be hurting.”

Bad things are only supposed to affect people I don't like, not me.
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That's all you can expect from their kind. Trumptrash aren't smart enough to know that the filthy Russian whore they are so enamored of doesn't give a **** about them. That's not a level of intelligence you can expect from such lesser beings.
 
JoeMorgue said:
That's the problem with Trumpers. All of them think they are either above or in on the joke.
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...because the joke has already been popular among them since years before any of them knew who Trump was. That's what made the careers of Jeff Foxworthy, Bill Engvall, Larry The Cable Guy, and Ron White, and made Hee Haw popular in rural country and a legitimate place for country singers to go for publicity.
 
varwoche said:
... it's a truism. Any lawyer who works for Trump will eventually require their own lawyer. And as often as not, Trump's lawyer's lawyer will also need a lawyer.
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A new wrinkle. Giuliani has hired a new team of lawyers one of whom was Michael Cohen's lawyer.

This suggests there might be one or more lawyers who specialize in representing Trump's lawyers.
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Better than it would have done had he not flipped. And it was likely his lawyer who advised him to flip...
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Significant is how deciding to aid prosecutors in the search for the truth, in order to hold wrongdoers responsible for their acts, has been reduced to a single word, “flip”.

Does seem like a strategy a crime boss would use.
 
If there's more amusing parts in the transcripts, I'd definitely like to know about them...!

Schiff: What do you deduce from that - that our ally is fighting with the Russians but all of these agencies that support this can't get a meeting with the President to discuss it?

Taylor: It turns our, Mr. Chairman, that those principals as we call them were on different trips at different times. I think this was also about the time of the Greenland question, about purchasing Greenland, which took up a lot of energy at the NSC.

Schiff: Okay. That's disturbing for a whole different reason.
 
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varwoche said:
If there's more amusing parts in the transcripts, I'd definitely like to know about them...!

Schiff: What do you deduce from that - that our ally is fighting with the Russians but all of these agencies that support this can't get a meeting with the President to discuss it?

Taylor: It turns our, Mr. Chairman, that those principals as we call them were on different trips at different times. I think this was also about the time of the Greenland question, about purchasing Greenland, which took up a lot of energy at the NSC.

Schiff: Okay. That's disturbing for a whole different reason.
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.... It wasn't possible to find an hour that they could organize at least a teleconference? I have people in my department going on various trips all the time... we can easily set up a remote meeting. Surely they can do that too.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
.... It wasn't possible to find an hour that they could organize at least a teleconference? I have people in my department going on various trips all the time... we can easily set up a remote meeting. Surely they can do that too.
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I guess it's not just the meeting, they'd have to find time to produce a shiny, colorful max. four-page picture book about the issue to explain it to Trump
 
timhau said:
I guess it's not just the meeting, they'd have to find time to produce a shiny, colorful max. four-page picture book about the issue to explain it to Trump
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... fastidiously scraping out any facts that might trigger him.
 
varwoche said:
A new wrinkle. Giuliani has hired a new team of lawyers one of whom was Michael Cohen's lawyer.

This suggests there might be one or more lawyers who specialize in representing Trump's lawyers.
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PhantomWolf said:
How well did it work out for Cohen?
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He was only convicted on eight counts (well ... nine, counting the perjury conviction, but they let the sentence for that run concurrent with his other time), and only got three years behind bars.

I'd say it worked out pretty well. It could have been a lot worse.
 
Rumors now abounding that GOPers in the House are considering a plan to make Giuliani the scapegoat for the Ukraine scandal, trying to portray it as a rogue operation Trump had no control over.....
Total BS of course, but it indicates the evidence of wrongdoing is so strong that they can't just hand wave it away or claim nothing happened.
 
dudalb said:
Rumors now abounding that GOPers in the House are considering a plan to make Giuliani the scapegoat for the Ukraine scandal, trying to portray it as a rogue operation Trump had no control over.....
Total BS of course, but it indicates the evidence of wrongdoing is so strong that they can't just hand wave it away or claim nothing happened.
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Meanwhile, in the White House it's Mulvaney being thrown under the bus.
 
dudalb said:
Rumors now abounding that GOPers in the House are considering a plan to make Giuliani the scapegoat for the Ukraine scandal, trying to portray it as a rogue operation Trump had no control over.....
Total BS of course, but it indicates the evidence of wrongdoing is so strong that they can't just hand wave it away or claim nothing happened.
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Actually, I think Giuliani was running something of a rogue operation that got Yovanovitch fired, but that's a separate issue from Trump's "perfect" quid pro quo.
 
Wait...

Guiliani was running a rogue operation and manipulated Trump into withholding aid while enforcing Guiliani's quid pro quo?

How is that actually better?
 
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