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How do psychic mediums know stuff about you

Why do people feel the need to believe in a god? One thing that I can't understand is people claiming that they have felt the Holy Spirit, is the HS just a chemical reaction?

For some they actually do believe they are feeling the holy spirit. When I was younger, I felt the same thing. I grew up Pentecostal, speaking in tongues, falling out in the spirit, dancing, shouting and such were normal and it's hard to explain but something does come over you and in that moment you do actually feel like the spirit of God is in you. It's not a chemical reaction, but I do think it's a reaction to the feeling around you.

Now I'm no longer religious and I view such things as release. Afterwards you feel better, you feel happier and with that, I think, people are releasing stresses in their lives in a way that helps them, it can be contagious if you are in a good service and something moves you.


I have nothing on speaking in tongues, I've done it when I was a teen but I have nothing to explain why I did it, as even back then it was weird to me for someone to speak in tongues and then have someone else interprets what you said.
 
Since I just commented on it in another thread, I may as well wheel it out here as well. Having had one of those NDE deals, I can actually understand why it is that some interpret it as a godly event.


Similarly, I've experienced the combination of sleep paralysis and hypnopompic hallucination, waking up in the middle of the night unable to move, with what appeared to be shadowy figures moving around my bed, and then going back to sleep. It's easy to see why someone unfamiliar with those phenomena and having appropriate preconceptions might think aliens or demons.
 
Not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread , but suggest folk interested in how the business (and it is a business) of mediums and the like work should read M. Lamar Keene's Psychic Mafia. It's out of print but I have seen PDFs of it on the Web. It's the "confession" of a successful medium and in it he explains the many means used to dupe people. The time period is the 1970s but it shows even back then how organised the mediums were. Drop in today's technology and it would be simpler than ever to run the scam.
 
My younger sister works for a local paper, heading up the advertising section. She regularly contributes the daily astrology chart as part of a turn based system undertaken by various bods as a chore.

If they're not copy/pasting from years back they're (you'll be surprised to read) making it up.
 
If they're not copy/pasting from years back they're (you'll be surprised to read) making it up.
In one of Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently novels Dirk gloomily reads his horoscope in his paper, which is predicting something awful. It is later revealed that (as Dirk well knows) the guy who writes the horoscopes knows and hates him, and deliberately makes up terrible predictions for his sign just to annoy him. The author adds that the circulation of the paper has recently dropped by about a twelfth, to the mystification of its owners.
 
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What an interesting read. I liked the quote about astrology being a word-association game.

I like this one-:

I would weave a story and, later, the customer’s memory would add new elements. I got to test this theory after a friend raved about a reading she’d had, full of astonishingly accurate predictions. She had a tape of the session, so I asked her to play it.

The clairvoyant had said none of the things my friend claimed. Not a single one. My friend’s imagination had done all the work.
 
What an interesting read. I liked the quote about astrology being a word-association game.
If you haven't read them before, you may be interested in my descriptions of how Tarot cards "work". They're pretty old, but I'll see if I can wrangle the search function and find a couple of links.

Here's a pretty good post I made on the subject some time ago. It's probably the most detailed and complete description of the way I approach Tarot.

Here's a thread where I actually did a couple of Tarot readings. Shame I never went back to that.

Anyone want a reading?
 
Arth, I read that thread, and

a. Why didn't you do the other readings?
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. I think 12AX7 may have been banned before being able to return and tell us about the result of their court case, and I suppose I just forgot about the rest.

b. What was your grandfather's middle name?
It was JihadJane who was asking for their grandfather's middle name.
 
For a while I played with the I Ching and found it moderately useful. 3 reasons, basically you're casting your problem into words and that changes how you look at it. In the process of relating it to the blatherings of the I Ching you take your problem apart. And finally if presented with an answer you realise you don't like you'll choose the other.

Nowadays I just talk to the duck. Much more straighforward.
 
At archive.org you can download free books and articles by and about Harry Houdini. Many include details about how the spiritualists of the time pulled off their cons.

https://archive.org/details/1924HoudiniAMagicianAmongTheSpirits

Most people are probably aware that Houdini spent many years exposing spiritualists as con artists, but many might not know that before that he actually performed a spiritualist act. He and his team would go canvas a town when they arrive to learn secrets that they would "magically" reveal during the performance. Apparently, people like to gossip even to strangers.
 
At archive.org you can download free books and articles by and about Harry Houdini. Many include details about how the spiritualists of the time pulled off their cons.

https://archive.org/details/1924HoudiniAMagicianAmongTheSpirits

Most people are probably aware that Houdini spent many years exposing spiritualists as con artists, but many might not know that before that he actually performed a spiritualist act. He and his team would go canvas a town when they arrive to learn secrets that they would "magically" reveal during the performance. Apparently, people like to gossip even to strangers.
In one of those books by Houdini you can find the story I have related more than once on this forum. Here is my version of it on a much earlier thread:

"Are you aware of the magician Harry Kellar? He was one of the premier magicians at roughly the time of Houdini. He was on a tour overseas when he gave a reading to a man he had never met before. Kellar told the young man that he (the young man) was traveling under an assumed name, and he told him his real name. He told him where he was from in the United States and the name of his parents. He also told him that he was about to receive a letter from his mother.

All of what Kellar told the young man turned out to be true. The man was flabbergasted; there was no one around who knew that his traveling name was false, let alone what his real name was. There was no one who knew where he was from or his parents' names. Most impressively, he had not communicated with his parents in a very long time, and there was no way Kellar could have predicted that a letter was coming from his mother.

All of which is at least as impressive as what you are relating. I would say that the prediction of the letter is more impressive. And Kellar did it without psychic abilities."

And here is my response when the believer with whom I was engaging insisted I tell him where to find the documentation and how it was done:

"It is findable, which is one reason I gave few specifics. More importantly, most people who find out how he did it will be immensely disappointed. Most importantly, in my experience the believers who find out the specific methods for such things invalidly use it to defend their interpretations of their own experience. They will usually say something along the lines of "That obviously isn't what happened in my case, therefore I am justified in claiming real psychic ability for the person I visited."

It profoundly misses the point. Even setting aside faulty memory (which we really cannot do here), there is not just one method for giving the appearance of psychic ability; some of those methods are planned, and some simply take advantage of of elements of the situation that the sitter is unaware of. And they are not static. The methods used today may not be the methods used next week, even with the same sitter."
 
If you haven't read them before, you may be interested in my descriptions of how Tarot cards "work". They're pretty old, but I'll see if I can wrangle the search function and find a couple of links.

Here's a pretty good post I made on the subject some time ago. It's probably the most detailed and complete description of the way I approach Tarot.


Similar to your post, I read a book years ago that had a section on performing Tarot readings for yourself. It basically amounted to studying the images on the cards while thinking about the meanings traditionally associated with them, letting your mind wander, and seeing what pops into your head. A slightly more guided version of looking at a relaxing picture while thinking about a problem.
 

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