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The Trump Presidency: Part 18

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Ladewig said:
Au contraire When one believes that one is the cleverest man in the world all of history, then one cannot imagine a situation that he cannot talk his way out of.

One of the tell-all books reported a conversation early in the presidency in which Pres Trump adamantly and loudly insisted that he would make a great witness if he were called to testify.
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You're being sarcastic, right?

He believes that right up until his bluff is called and then he switches to some belief about why he doesn't have to appear.
 
TofuFighter said:
I'd like to know the rationale behind trump's retweeting this.

Is it really just the president of the United States saying "reminder: you're not allowed to protest against me"? Not that everything he tweets isn't a bit bizarre, but this is really the kind of notice that officials in China or North Korea would issue.

The University clarified its position in that link that it was not a warning about protesting trump, but rather a warning against 'disruptive behaviour' under which, presumably, the Student Affairs body may lump any trump protest.

Someone should probably remind trump that he signed an executive order in March about free speech on college campus - Link.
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In TrumpWorld "free speech" means you are free to speak anything flattering about Trump that you want to.

Aside from that ... not so much.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I had a weird thought about the Trump presidency last night.

In fiction there are generally two types of time travel stories: fragile timelines and robust timelines. In the fragile timeline stories, like Back to the Future, any little change can have massive impacts on the future. In robust timeline stories, like Travelers, even with concerted efforts to impact the future it is difficult to make substantial changes.

The further we go along in the Trump presidency the more I feel like someone is trying to stop a disaster by preventing the election of Trump, and then exposing every criminal aspect of the Trump presidency. But the timeline is just too robust. The pending disaster will happen, even if you expose things that would have tanked any other candidate or president, the momentum is just too great.

In Travelers there was a quote about time being like a river, and their changes being like stones thrown in the river. Sure the water has to go around them, but it still end up in about the same place.
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If you're going to make suppositions like that, of course, it would be just as feasible to examine this alternative scenario - In the original timeline, Hillary won. Enraged and invigorated by the GOP propaganda blitz against her, the GOP turns out in remarkable numbers and tricks a bunch of those who aren't paying attention as much to their side. Meanwhile, the Democrats grow a bit too complacent - they won, after all, and they don't really like that candidate anyways because of the GOP lies and her failure to get much done because of Republican sabotage, allowing the GOP to have a massive red wave. Emboldened by their success, the far right groups pushing for a Constitutional Convention get their desire, as well as permanent gerrymanders in a bunch of states and the US ends up in much the same condition as they've already given Chile. With the US then completely out of the game when it comes to addressing the Climate emergency, massive worldwide disaster becomes pretty much inevitable and happens.

Then comes the time traveler with a plan - get Trump to win and let the people actually see how horrendous the GOP actually is, leading to blue wave after blue wave, getting the US into the fight and keeping it there and producing some hope of preventing or significantly reducing the effects of the massive disaster to come.

Plenty more detail could be added, of course, but that would be just as feasible a scenario to work with.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
watch here

He certainly has his talking points down.
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He certainly does, as does his fiancee. He parroted whatever Daddy says just like Pence. I noticed how often he tried to avoid the questions he was asked but diverting to something else, usually one of those talking points.

At times he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. I almost felt sorry for him. Almost.
 
Aridas said:
If you're going to make suppositions like that, of course, it would be just as feasible to examine this alternative scenario - In the original timeline, Hillary won. Enraged and invigorated by the GOP propaganda blitz against her, the GOP turns out in remarkable numbers and tricks a bunch of those who aren't paying attention as much to their side. Meanwhile, the Democrats grow a bit too complacent - they won, after all, and they don't really like that candidate anyways because of the GOP lies and her failure to get much done because of Republican sabotage, allowing the GOP to have a massive red wave. Emboldened by their success, the far right groups pushing for a Constitutional Convention get their desire, as well as permanent gerrymanders in a bunch of states and the US ends up in much the same condition as they've already given Chile. With the US then completely out of the game when it comes to addressing the Climate emergency, massive worldwide disaster becomes pretty much inevitable and happens.

Then comes the time traveler with a plan - get Trump to win and let the people actually see how horrendous the GOP actually is, leading to blue wave after blue wave, getting the US into the fight and keeping it there and producing some hope of preventing or significantly reducing the effects of the massive disaster to come.

Plenty more detail could be added, of course, but that would be just as feasible a scenario to work with.
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I have to wonder how many scenarios Dr. Strange could discover about the fate of our country, and how many of them would not leave the US destroyed.
 
Horatius said:
I for one wholly support this new plan for Trump's post-presidential career. Get enough MAGA idiots voting on this show for whoever he annoints as the next great politician, and maybe they'll forget to actually vote for them in the real election. "Why we gots ta vote fer him agin? Ain't he alreddy won? Trump said so!"
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Can he host from jail?
Or will they film at his non-extradition dacha on the Siberian coast?
 
Trebuchet said:
He wasn't accepted as old money because he's NOT old money, just the son of new money.
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THe Trumps are a textbook example of the Noveau Riche.
They have to show off how rich they are at every opportunity, Old Money regards that as incredibly vulger.
 
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One of the ideas kicked around by Burnett and the president was shooting a new version of the Trump-branded Apprentice, tentatively titled The Apprentice: White House, and to produce it shortly after the president leaves office.
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Hoping the show goes on the air the last week of January 2021!
 
dudalb said:
Apparently some GOP house members are floating a theory that Giuliani was running a rogue operation without Trump's Knowledge..
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I don't envy them the task of trying to characterize either Trump or Giuliani as a brilliant Machiavellian mastermind, puppeteering others in a clever scheme.
 
For the second Election Day in as many years, suburban voters demonstrated enormous political power in electing or aiding Democratic candidates in historically Republican areas, underscoring the drift of many moderate voters from the G.O.P. in the era of President Trump. Link
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Yay!

In my part of the world the Democrats did very well --except around here they always do -- but despite being a lifelong registered Democrat this time around I voted a split ticket. I voted for the Republican candidate for a local office. I'm not friends with him but I am acquainted with him (through a local history society I belong to) and he seems like a pretty good guy. Quite an intelligent man, very personable and a true moderate.

He lost.
 
dudalb said:
Apparently some GOP house members are floating a theory that Giuliani was running a rogue operation without Trump's Knowledge...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a14efa-0173-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html
Rudy is about see what the bottom of a bus looks like...

But the real takeaway is that some on the GOP House have relises they can't just handwave away the mounting evidence.
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Here's the thing... that won't fly, at least for anyone who has read the testimony of those State Department officials who have given impeachment inquiry depositions. They have testified that the order to hold Ukraine assistance, especially the withholding of Javelin missiles, came directly from the OMB, per Mulvany, on the direct orders of Trump.
 
Why wait until he leaves office to start The Apprentice: White House? He's in dire need of a steady flow of employees to maintain that neverending revolving door he's got going on.

The White House is already a reality-tv freak show, so he might as well try to bring in some much needed government revenues by way of his ten-toothed voter base.
 
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