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Boycott dooms first UK Chick-fil-A

One of the worst takes ever on this site. You aren't perfect so therefore you shouldn't even try to do anything is just a ridiculous standpoint.

Plus if a company is so prominent with their horrendous views that the media take notice and you still patronise them that is a whole different level of wrong to simply not being aware of wrongdoings.

That's the whole bloody point of the media. To raise awareness of these things so people can make informed choices.

Mind you in this case I don't know what publicity was carried out locally, but I was completely unaware there even was a Chick-Fil-A in the UK so its possible that the failure was unconnected to the boycott but simply because people didn't know who the hell they are and/or didn't like their food.

This.

I'm fairly local, I didn't know it was there but if I'd happened to be in The Oracle and planning to eat I wouldn't have gone there, not because of their donations but because I remember their previous very public stance on medical cover for female employees relating to birth control. The company made it's religion and politics a public matter, they can expect people to take that into account.
 
This.



I'm fairly local, I didn't know it was there but if I'd happened to be in The Oracle and planning to eat I wouldn't have gone there, not because of their donations but because I remember their previous very public stance on medical cover for female employees relating to birth control. The company made it's religion and politics a public matter, they can expect people to take that into account.
It was in the local press when it opened, even showed up in my google news, but I think it was kept quite low key because it was a test run.
 
People today get outraged over the drop of a hat. There was a time when things such as the My Lai Massacre didn't bother most people. Today half the world gets outraged over a chicken sandwich. People today are incapable of prioritizing troubles.
 
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It was in the local press when it opened, even showed up in my google news, but I think it was kept quite low key because it was a test run.

I heard about it because one of the burlesque dancers in my Facebook feed mentioned it because she’s from America and was looking forward to getting one of her favourite meals again.
 
One of the worst takes ever on this site. You aren't perfect so therefore you shouldn't even try to do anything is just a ridiculous standpoint.

My standpoint is that most modern activism is subject to Sturgeon's Law. It's cargo-cult activism: "Protests have worked in the past; this is a protest; this must be working!"

Rephrasing your analysis: "You aren't perfect, so maybe you should take a moment to assess what you actually want to achieve, and if this is the way to achieve it."
 
It's the SA in the US that's openly anti-LGBT rights, which is the one CFA donates to.

My wife used to be a case manager at a Salvation Army men's shelter about 10 years ago.

Sexuality was never an issue with who could be admitted or receive services. As far as she can recall, sexuality/LGBT issues were never brought up. Many of the residents where openly gay. Some of which, the Salvation Army hired in various capacities around the shelter and store. An openly gay and HIV positive gentleman worked as cook for the shelter until shortly before he passed away.

Religion was never pushed on the residents, though they were invited to church on Sundays if they wished to go.

One thing people don't always realize is that SA is a church. We never attended (and were never pushed to attend), but one of the lieutenants explained that it was a church founded on the Wesleyan tradition. I had no idea of this until my wife started working there. Their hiring practices differ between the clergy side of things and the lay side.

Those who are on the ministerial side must meet the religious requirements. Officers are ordained ministers. They are basically the equivalent of ministers, bishops, etc. in other churches. Non-officers (sergeant Majors, for example), are non-ordained lay religious staff. Kind of like a deacon.

My wife didn't see any any anti-LGBT policies or actions here. But the SA is rather large and the environment and attitudes may be different at other chapters.
 
I love their food but the location's just not convenient enough for me.
 
Actually I wouldn't go there looking at it

They do this

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Where KFC do this

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Suffice it to say that there's a reason Popeye's chicken sandwiches had people acting like extras on the Boondocks - Them and Church's are (or were, back before I went vegetarian) the best two fried chicken places, with KFC being decent, and Chik-Fil-A being mostly good for their waffle fries.
 
What is "back"?

I was wondering that. I could only assume it means 'breast', due to either prudishness or lack of knowledge of basic anatomy on the part of whoever coined the term.

No, it's the chicken's back which has hardly any meat and a lot of bones. If anything it's both the culinary and anatomical opposite of the breast.

AFAIK there's no prudishness about using breast w.r.t. chicken parts. For example, this is the description of the CFA grilled nuggets.

Bite-sized pieces of boneless breast of chicken, marinated with a special blend of seasonings and grilled for a tender and juicy backyard-grilled taste.

https://www.chick-fil-a.com/Menu-Items/Grilled-Nuggets
 
The Chick-fil-a example is pretty funny. I'm sure when they started business, aligning themselves as some sort of Christian family friendly establishment wasn't really a controversial political stance. Their throw-back style and nods to Christianity (closed Sundays) were probably seen as cheap PR to ingratiate themselves to the general public.

Unfortunately for them, times have changed, and evangelical Christianity doesn't enjoy the same broad general tolerance that it used to, largely due to it's role as being a bastion against LGBT civil rights.

My reading is that Chick-fil-a is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't want to repudiate their evangelical, and largely anti-LGBT base, but they also don't want to be so tightly tied to the losing culture war over the issues of gay rights.

Not sure what the future holds. As LGBT rights increasingly become a settled matter of law and culture, will the evangelicals become more or less virulent over the issue?

As a matter of business, I imagine Chick-fil-a will slowly modify their "christian values" theme into a more benign version that is increasingly silent about hot-button cultural issues. They'll probably keep the things that make them seem quaint, as a matter of branding, like being closed Sundays and the "my pleasure" response, but drop the toxic assets.
 
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What is "back"?

I was wondering that. I could only assume it means 'breast', due to either prudishness or lack of knowledge of basic anatomy on the part of whoever coined the term.

No, it's the chicken's back which has hardly any meat and a lot of bones. If anything it's both the culinary and anatomical opposite of the breast.

Correct. Basically spine and ribs with little to no flesh. KFC has developed the ability to include some of it in virtually every piece to a fine art.
 

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