The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Belz... said:
Are they? I'd like to think so but with the Supreme Court stacked and the Senate unwilling to do anything against him I can't be sure.
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Our institutions are hardwired for smooth transitions of power. Once the machinery of transition gets going, the inertia is hard to stop. Our government is well practiced at this.

As vile and disgusting a human being as judge rapist Kavanagh is, I don't see him nullifying an election when there is no certification for any other candidate than Trump's opponent. Keep in mind the Chief Justice Roberts has sided against Trump in the past.

Assuming the Electoral College votes align with the popular vote, it doesn't matter anyway. As Trump well knows, it's the Electoral College that matters. Do you really see five of the nine SCOTUS justices voting to nullify the Electoral College vote? What would happen next if they did? The Electoral College has to elect the president. If they nullify the Electoral College vote, that doesn't mean the College will then vote for Trump.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

“Report: ‘Whistleblower’ Never Disclosed Contact with House Intel Panel to Inspector General”

The so-called Ukraine "whistleblower" reportedly did not disclose contacts with a House staffer to the intel community inspector general.
breitbart.com

SHIFTY SCHIFF DUPED BY RUSSIAN PRANKSTERS!
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Um, Russian pranksters?
 
Craig4 said:
Our institutions are hardwired for smooth transitions of power. Once the machinery of transition gets going, the inertia is hard to stop. Our government is well practiced at this.

As vile and disgusting a human being as judge rapist Kavanagh is, I don't see him nullifying an election when there is no certification for any other candidate than Trump's opponent. Keep in mind the Chief Justice Roberts has sided against Trump in the past.

Assuming the Electoral College votes align with the popular vote, it doesn't matter anyway. As Trump well knows, it's the Electoral College that matters. Do you really see five of the nine SCOTUS justices voting to nullify the Electoral College vote? What would happen next if they did? The Electoral College has to elect the president. If they nullify the Electoral College vote, that doesn't mean the College will then vote for Trump.
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There's a big problem with systems that rely on inertia for smoothness. Should the momentum for whatever reason not be there, it is almost impossible to get it going. What you're telling me is that IF Trump refuses to accept his loss, no one will have any idea what to do next because they've always relied on administrations exiting with a modicum of grace. Has Trump ever been graceful?

Plan on a messy breakup, the kind with false police reports and setting your crap on fire as he's dragged out the door.
 
Craig4 said:
Our institutions are hardwired for smooth transitions of power. Once the machinery of transition gets going, the inertia is hard to stop. Our government is well practiced at this.

As vile and disgusting a human being as judge rapist Kavanagh is, I don't see him nullifying an election when there is no certification for any other candidate than Trump's opponent. Keep in mind the Chief Justice Roberts has sided against Trump in the past.

Assuming the Electoral College votes align with the popular vote, it doesn't matter anyway. As Trump well knows, it's the Electoral College that matters. Do you really see five of the nine SCOTUS justices voting to nullify the Electoral College vote? What would happen next if they did? The Electoral College has to elect the president. If they nullify the Electoral College vote, that doesn't mean the College will then vote for Trump.
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I agree that trying to nullify the electoral vote as a whole will not produce the desired result. Which is why they might look at the largest swing state that went against President Trump (or the swing state with the narrowest margin) and argue that there was enough voter fraud in that state that all those electoral votes should be excluded from the totals. Although given the president's style, he’d argue that that state’s EC votes should really go to him, but he is reasonable enough to compromise and simply exclude the votes from the totals.

At that point, it might depend on what the Congressional Republicans do as a whole. Will they tell the president to STFU or will they go on the Sunday-morning shows and agree with him. That will have no effect on what SCOTUS does, but it will have an effect on what the population does.
 
I hope Dems get it, once and for all, that there is no point to play to the Court of Public Opinion, only to actual judges.
If they can credibly threaten Trump's wealth, he would resign and run for the hills in an instant, just staying long enough to collect his Pardon from Pence..
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I hope Dems get it, once and for all, that there is no point to play to the Court of Public Opinion, only to actual judges.
If they can credibly threaten Trump's wealth, he would resign and run for the hills in an instant, just staying long enough to collect his Pardon from Pence..
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Whenever he leaves office and however it happens, I expect a whole lot of self-pardoning to occur first.
 
Trump Tweets

The so-called Whistleblower’s account of my perfect phone call is “way off,” not even close. Schiff and Pelosi never thought I would release the transcript of the call. Got them by surprise, they got caught. This is a fraud against the American people!

Somebody please wake up Mitt Romney and tell him that my conversation with the Ukrainian President was a congenial and very appropriate one, and my statement on China pertained to corruption, not politics. If Mitt worked this hard on Obama, he could have won. Sadly, he choked!

Mitt Romney never knew how to win. He is a pompous “ass” who has been fighting me from the beginning, except when he begged me for my endorsement for his Senate run (I gave it to him), and when he begged me to be Secretary of State (I didn’t give it to him). He is so bad for R’s!

The Media is “Fixed” and Corrupt. It bears no relationship to the truth. The
@nytimes
&
@washingtonpost
are pure fiction. Totally dishonest reporting!
 
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phiwum said:
Um, Russian pranksters?
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This is the frequently nonsensical monster that was given power. Still, given his propensity for accusing his current focus of what's on his mind... I wonder what's got him thinking all about "Russian pranksters" now?

In other news...

Barr blocked criminal investigation of whistleblower allegations weeks before complaint was filed

Anyone surprised?

Looks like Senator Ron Johnson knew about the pressure being put on Ukraine and lied about it. It would hardly be the first time he lied about things like that, though.

Trump is destroying an irreplaceable world treasure in an effort to speed up building his 'wall'

Since 1976, Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument has also been the Organ Pipe Cactus Biosphere Reserve, a world heritage site sanctioned by UNESCO as the most pristine examples of intact Sonoran Desert ecosystem. The otherworldly beauty of the monument brings visitors who come to gawk at the towering forms and hike the gravel-strewn trails . It also attracts scientists from around the globe who study the inhabitants of the desert and their adaptation to this this incredible environment.

And now it’s home to one of the greatest acts of ecological vandalism in a century—carried out in an effort to hurry construction of Donald Trump’s border fence.

Despite Trump’s many tweets, announcements, and rally speeches, wntil the last few weeks, it was easy to characterize the real length of his wall: Zero. Not a yard of new fence had been built in a place that didn’t already have some existing barrier when Trump stepped into office. But Trump has made it a priority to add some miles to the total before he has to go back in front of his “Build the Wall!” rally crowds for the 2020 election. The easiest way to do that has been by avoiding potential lawsuits from private landowners that could tie up progress for months. Instead, Trump has been counting on his hand-picked cronies at the EPA and Interior Department to ignore every law and regulation concerning construction, environmental impact studies, and protection of archaeological artifacts.
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Yes, Trump's criminal administration is violating laws like crazy and frequently to the distinct harm of the US.
 
Aridas said:
Yes, Trump's criminal administration is violating laws like crazy and frequently to the distinct harm of the US.
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I believe that unfortunately the Patriot Act gives DHS broad powers to waive (ie break) many laws if national security is at stake. I don’t even think he’s building his “wall” in areas that are particularly in need of increased physical barriers. Just maybe where it’s easiest.
 
Trump Tweets

No Kevin, Jeff Flake is better!
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Kevin Corke
@kevincorke
Question of the afternoon...
Has #MittRomney become the new #JeffFlake or is the latest back and forth much ado about nothing? #QOTD

I’m hearing that the Great People of Utah are considering their vote for their Pompous Senator, Mitt Romney, to be a big mistake. I agree! He is a fool who is playing right into the hands of the Do Nothing Democrats! #IMPEACHMITTROMNEY

Not only are the Do Nothing Democrats interfering in the 2020 Election, but they are continuing to interfere in the 2016 Election. They must be stopped!

So Crooked Hillary Clinton can delete and acid wash 33,000 emails AFTER getting a Subpoena from the United States Congress, but I can’t make one totally appropriate telephone call to the President of Ukraine? Witch Hunt!
 
Darat said:
Trump now lying rate is now 100%! He lies about the lies he previous said!
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Surely he’s above 100 percent by now.
varwoche said:
There are apparently two more whistleblowers still in the shadows:

(1) Ukraine phone call, a person with more direct knowledge than whistleblower #1, cited by whistleblower #1.

(2) An IRS employee concerning...?
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Oh I bet there are way more than two. Like, hundreds. Or at least dozens. Remember we learn of these things months after the fact. Consider all the people who have left the Administration and all the “deep state” folks still loyal to the ones who had any degree of competence/independence.
 
Too bad Johnson has gone so squishy re: His statements about pressure on Ukraine. His non-denial denials are pretty thin. Ukraine president says he didn’t feel pressure which has **** all to do with anything.

ETA: Dems continue to interfere in 2016 election :D
 
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