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How do psychic mediums know stuff about you

Delvo said:
Not only is this stuff not true, but I don't get what would "freak out" anybody about that. It would make no difference in the life of anybody who just didn't go to mediums anyway.

The biggest factor is the audience. The people who go for this kind of stuff invariably end up reporting that what the con artist had did & said was something completely different from what the con artist actually did & said.
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This is why I am a regular viewer of paranormal crap on tv, that and my life is boring.

To learn how to spot the parlor tricks. Some deliver in bulk on the games but most have gone to simply letting the viewers see the evidence and decide what it was. It's the best trick of all because there is one in each home out there that is right on whatever caused something heavy to fall off camera, or why a door moved.

Madame Woo isn't much different except she wants to run your card before she does the magic. It rarely seems what it really was, same tricks as any illusionist with scantily clad assistants and lots of theatrical movements. So you fail to see how mundane the real answer was. Distract and dazzle, but try not to reveal.
 
xterra said:
No, he didn't completely evade it. He said that mediums are selective in what they transmit from 'the other side.'
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Not telling the whole truth is substantially lying. So if mediums are willing to impose their personal notions of proper messaging onto the message, then it's about the medium and not about the message or the departed. If mediums just tell people what they want to hear, or what they want them to hear, then they aren't genuine mediums. I see no material difference between distorting a message from beyond and making up a message from beyond.

What if the departed was a long-time abuser of the survivor, and the survivor would be most comforted by a message that the departed is suffering eternal torment for his behavior? How is a true medium supposed to navigate all these perils and pitfalls? Why are they said to channel something when their real job appears to blow sunshine up the survivor's tailpipe regardless of the facts?
 
Scorpion said:
I believe it is not easy to come back and give messages to relatives, as the world is surrounded by dark psychic energy, caused by all the wars, and such, and a spirit has to descend through it to reach us. So they have to be motivated...
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Then what right does a medium have to decide that the message the spirit risked all that to deliver is not suitable for the well-being of the client?
 
Scorpion I am sorry but I have a hard time believing in what you do. Religion and spiritualism has only harmed me, magical thinking in my opinion harms society, it's illogical and irrational thinking.

Thank you for your replies people, yes this medium really has caused me a lot of damage
 
xterra said:
No, he didn't completely evade it. He said that mediums are selective in what they transmit from 'the other side.'

By implication, they would not tell you, for instance, that your grandmother hid the fact that she had been a prostitute and that your grandfather stole the money they left you so you could ... umm, buy a refrigerator.

Scorpion, suppose you asked 'Where did you hide the three million dollars you earned by stock trading and that you promised to bequeath to me?" If the medium got a truthful answer, do you think the medium* would transmit the answer?

*Edited to clarify. I am referring to the genuine mediums, not the fake ones.
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I cannot say what a medium might, or might not do or say. I just think they help where they can.
 
I'm sure there are mediums who are sincerely trying to help their clients but they're not trained psychologists or therapists, and are quite likely to do more harm than good even with the best of intentions.
 
AmyW said:
Thank you everyone for your replies. I have a lot of reading to do.
I have generally met some nice mediums who haven't asked for money, I guess I have got to stop wondering if they have magical powers.
A medium once told me she can channel God, she then told me she channeled God and God has said that I have been created as academically unintelligent, this is why I go in search... if she did indeed channel God then it means I am unable to learn new things and my confidence has been broken
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No such thing. Sure, they may be nice. But they will ALWAYS get round to making money out of it, one way or another. Even if you have to be used as an advertisement of "success" to convince others.

So an easy rule to remember: With psychics, it's all about the money. YOUR money.
 
Norman Alexander said:
No such thing. Sure, they may be nice. But they will ALWAYS get round to making money out of it, one way or another. Even if you have to be used as an advertisement of "success" to convince others.

So an easy rule to remember: With psychics, it's all about the money. YOUR money.
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Nah, a minority are in it for for the ego massage that comes from undeserved respect.
 
Scorpion said:
I cannot say what a medium might, or might not do or say.
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Except that you did. You said

Scorpion said:
Most mediums I encountered don't relate unsympathetic messages. They are trying to help people and give them comfort and guidance.
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You specifically put the medium's judgment at the center of the question and speculated on the criteria they should employ.

I just think they help where they can.
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And your critics are asking you questions designed to show the contradiction in your reasoning. If the medium's judgment applies, then how is the medium supposed to know what is sympathetic, comforting, or helpful?

Comfort and guidance are two different things. I can offer someone one without offering them the other. If a genuine medium is filtering the message, and the result is guidance, then to what extent should the medium be responsible for the consequences of that guidance? What if the guidance would have been received differently if the client had heard the whole message?

You're making all this up as you go, and you're not thinking through all the consequences. You claim there are genuine mediums, but your concept of the scenarios that would operate in those circumstances is comically simplistic. You aren't allowed to get away with that simplistic level of detail when you're asserting what is the genuine state of affairs.
 
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It's a mad world, this psychic world but sadly a lot of people fall for it including me.... but me being a deep thinker, I wanted to dive deeper... I mean these mediums, why do they only relay sugar coated messages (most of the time) although the reading I had led me to have crippling self esteem.... they also believe in some sort of creator who allows such evil in this world, it's insane!
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Nah, a minority are in it for for the ego massage that comes from undeserved respect.
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Some of them have tried to guide me in terms of the reading I had with this awful medium, again perhaps they believe they are really psychic. They don't even come across as deluded or mad, what's scary is they seem normal everyday good people.
 
(the concept of) God is powerful. He is the almighty.
And it's a safe bet the psychics mark is religious. So a generic god is perfect as a tool for her. If she was Indian and in India it would be another powerful god or goddess.

It doesn't matter which if it pays out.

A good person will help you heal, a good real psychic will heal you of the damages of the charlatan before. For a fee. It builds on thier perceived ability by standing on the other. Unless you see through that too.

Always question motive. Understand the drives of the other especially if your money is on the table. Ask what you get for what you give. A pile of reassurance and a slap on the backside isn't worth the psychics price.
 
AmyW said:
Some of them have tried to guide me in terms of the reading I had with this awful medium, again perhaps they believe they are really psychic. They don't even come across as deluded or mad, what's scary is they seem normal everyday good people.
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They may consider themselves good people, and in some cases even honestly think they're doing good, but they are replacing peoples real memories of their loved ones with made up stuff and interrupting and drawing out the grieving process for people in pain by pretending to have super powers that let them be the super special conduit to keep these lost people in their lives.
 
AmyW said:
Some of them have tried to guide me in terms of the reading I had with this awful medium, again perhaps they believe they are really psychic. They don't even come across as deluded or mad, what's scary is they seem normal everyday good people.
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Here are two links for your edification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Gerbic


https://abouttimeproject.wordpress.com/susan-gerbic/


This one is also linked in the Wikipedia article:


https://pointofinquiry.org/2019/04/...n-to-expose-celeb-psychics-with-susan-gerbic/
 
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P.J. Denyer said:
They may consider themselves good people, and in some cases even honestly think they're doing good, but they are replacing peoples real memories of their loved ones with made up stuff and interrupting and drawing out the grieving process for people in pain by pretending to have super powers that let them be the super special conduit to keep these lost people in their lives.
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It's pure narcissism. We don't have to quantify how many of it are doing it for money. It's just distasteful on its face for someone to interpolate himself into my grieving process and assume a special position in the relationship between me and a departed loved one. Especially a position that tends to supplant the departed and assume a position of privilege. If the desire is to give comfort and consolation, then just give comfort and consolation. That's the proper expression of that ethos.
 
JayUtah said:
It's pure narcissism. We don't have to quantify how many of it are doing it for money. It's just distasteful on its face for someone to interpolate himself into my grieving process and assume a special position in the relationship between me and a departed loved one. Especially a position that tends to supplant the departed and assume a position of privilege. If the desire is to give comfort and consolation, then just give comfort and consolation. That's the proper expression of that ethos.
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Exactly. Although I think Penn put it best on BS, I'd find and transcribe it, but whats the point when it would mostly come out as asterisks.
 
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