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Today's Mass Shooting

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William Parcher said:
It started with a traffic stop for failing to use a turn signal. Then he starts shooting at the cop(s) who pulled him over. He takes off driving and indiscriminately begins shooting at random people including other motorists.
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If only he had a knife, or a swimming pool instead who knows what mayhem he may have caused


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One wonders why the USA police are armed or wear protective clothing. Surely when they need to stop someone on a killing rampage the thing to do would be to pray and send thoughts of "stop" since that seems to be the answer from politicians to the issue of mass killings?
 
Now reported as 7 killed. Some reports say 8 but I think that includes the shooter. I'm surprised that he hasn't been named yet. Reports from last night say that authorities know his identity.
 
CNN said:
The suspect in the Odessa and Midland, Texas, shooting used an AR-type weapon according to Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Christopher Combs said his agency responds to Texas frequently. The FBI is “here now almost every other week supporting our local and state partners on active shooters. We're almost every two weeks an active shooter in this country," he said.

The suspect has an Ector County address, Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said. He did not release the shooter's name.

Combs did say they are serving a federal search warrant in the area, but added there are numerous incident scenes across the area.
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https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/west-texas-shooting-odessa-midland/index.html
 
This thread should be renamed "Today's Mass Shootings", since there is more than one a day.
 
Daily Mail said:
Authorities said they would not name the gunman who shot dead seven people in Odessa, Texas, because they do not want to give him notoriety at a press conference on Sunday.

Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke told reporters that he would not reveal the suspect's identity at the public venue but that officials would release the name eventually.

The gunman was previously confirmed to be a white male in his 30s. He was shot and killed by police in the parking lot of the Cinergy movie theater in Odessa on Saturday afternoon.

Gerke said he was a resident of Ector County with a criminal record and that he used an assault rifle to carry out the shooting, which left seven dead - ranging in age from 15 to 57 - and 22 injured.

The police chief added that investigators have yet to determine a possible motive but the probe is ongoing and multiple crime scenes are being worked on...
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...REFUSES-identify-gunman-doesnt-notoriety.html
 
Nessie said:
This thread should be renamed "Today's Mass Shootings", since there is more than one a day.
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With some exceptions we post the USA mass shootings in this thread. We can see that they don't happen every day. But it could be a daily thing if the definition is broadened so that it includes domestic and organized crime (mostly gangs) or mass shootings in other countries. Or shootings with many injured but few or no deaths.
 
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Seven dead, that's 53 for the month of August. Plus about a thousand more smaller incidents.
Yea, freedom.
 
William Parcher said:
With some exceptions we post the USA mass shootings in this thread. We can see that they don't happen every day. But it could be a daily thing if the definition is broadened so that it includes domestic and organized crime (mostly gangs) or mass shootings in other countries. Or shootings with many injured but few or no deaths.
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Defined here as one incident where 4 or more people are shot;

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/about

and the number of shootings here;

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

which is 342 as per today (so far) which since today is day 244, is more than one a day.
 
Mass shootings clarify people's values, helping us keep track of what's important. Right now we must do everything to protect our guns from the government.
 
catsmate said:
Seven dead, that's 53 for the month of August. Plus about a thousand more smaller incidents.
Yea, freedom.
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Some seem to forget that here. Very telling how many people jump all over the "he was white" thing in this thread.

Which is worse, a few shooters killing many in a few incidents, or the hundreds of shooters that kill more people every day? That's a lot of shooters running around!

Answer: they are all bad.

Does CNN or Fox ever report on the dozens of gun murders that occur every day? Pretty rare.

Does anybody here talk about gang violence and the children who are shooting and getting shot every day? Nope. In fact I can remember no thread devoted to gang violence here at all. There must be a few because...

https://www.bradyunited.org/key-statistics

Every day, 310 people are shot in the United States. Among those:

100 people are shot and killed
210 survive gun injuries
95 are injured in an attack
61 die from suicide
10 survive a suicide attempt
1 is killed unintentionally
90 are shot unintentionally
1 is killed by legal intervention
4 are shot by legal intervention
1 died but the intent was unknown
12 are shot but the intent was unknown
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But ya, let's (ISF) focus on random shootings that nobody can really predict or stop because they are somehow more tragic than the hundreds that occur every day in the same areas of the same cities by the same people (gangs).
 
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mgidm86 said:
Some seem to forget that here. Very telling how many people jump all over the "he was white" thing in this thread.



Which is worse, a few shooters killing many in a few incidents, or the hundreds of shooters that kill more people every day? That's a lot of shooters running around!



Answer: they are all bad.



Does CNN or Fox ever report on the dozens of gun murders that occur every day? Pretty rare.



Does anybody here talk about gang violence and the children who are shooting and getting shot every day? Nope. In fact I can remember no thread devoted to gang violence here at all. There must be a few because...



https://www.bradyunited.org/key-statistics









But ya, let's (ISF) focus on random shootings that nobody can really predict or stop because they are somehow more tragic than the hundreds that occur every day in the same areas of the same cities by the same people (gangs).
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You can focus on them all with sensible gun policy and laws.
 
mgidm86 said:
Some seem to forget that here. Very telling how many people jump all over the "he was white" thing in this thread.

Which is worse, a few shooters killing many in a few incidents, or the hundreds of shooters that kill more people every day? That's a lot of shooters running around!

Answer: they are all bad.

Does CNN or Fox ever report on the dozens of gun murders that occur every day? Pretty rare.

Does anybody here talk about gang violence and the children who are shooting and getting shot every day? Nope. In fact I can remember no thread devoted to gang violence here at all. There must be a few because...

https://www.bradyunited.org/key-statistics




But ya, let's (ISF) focus on random shootings that nobody can really predict or stop because they are somehow more tragic than the hundreds that occur every day in the same areas of the same cities by the same people (gangs).
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Why not start a thread on the topic? If you don’t people might draw the wrong conclusion - i.e. that you don’t particularly care about it except to distract from widely publicized mass shootings.
 
Nessie said:
Defined here as one incident where 4 or more people are shot;

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/about

and the number of shootings here;

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

which is 342 as per today (so far) which since today is day 244, is more than one a day.
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Yes, that database includes domestic and organized crime (most often gangs) shootings.

Other definitions and their databases exclude domestics and gangs. Those are the "spree shooters" where we so often see white supremacists wanting to kill non-whites and other nutjobs who simply want to kill anybody they can.

The ISF seems most interested and focused on the spree shootings which are apparently dominated by white supremacists.
 
William Parcher said:
Yes, that database includes domestic and organized crime (most often gangs) shootings.

Other definitions and their databases exclude domestics and gangs. Those are the "spree shooters" where we so often see white supremacists wanting to kill non-whites and other nutjobs who simply want to kill anybody they can.

The ISF seems most interested and focused on the spree shootings which are apparently dominated by white supremacists.
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Again, if you want to add a new thread by way of balance, I am sure nobody will object.
 
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