Skeptic Ginger
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Clinton isn't running. Get over it.
2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II
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Clinton isn't running. Get over it.
theprestige
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Clinton's 2016 loss has lessons for the 2020 candidates.
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Childlike Empress
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Krystal Ball wasn't making a "majoritarian argument" (LOL), whatever that nonsense means to you two folks. She and several other journalists who witnessed it first hand spoke out about the Chomskyian circumstances that lead to the bizarre event of "MSM smearing Sanders for saying MSM smearing Sanders".
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angrysoba
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Huh? I never said you were pro-Sanders.
SG, may I humbly make a suggestion. Next time Travis makes a claim, let him back it up instead of adding to the confusion with all this noise.
BobTheCoward
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Her comments about Clinton were majoritarian (rather than a finessed argument about electoral college strength) and were wrong. It is a good thing in that case that executive leadership took reasonable measures to stop dumb commentary.
CNN new poll shows Biden with a double digit lead and Harris dropping way down.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-2020-biden-rebound/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-2020-biden-rebound/index.html
angrysoba
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I think it will eventually come down to Biden vs Sanders/Warren. And Biden will probably edge it as the field thins.
I've been calling a Biden/Warren race for months now. We're basically just having a "Old School Moderate Democrat" vs "Progressive 'New Generation' Democrat" referendum at this point and those two seems to be the front runners for those respective camps.
angrysoba
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It’s still not clear who the Sanders/Warren bloc will anoint as their flag-bearer. Maybe Warren because it is “her turn” and because she is improving in the polls. But Sanders still has higher poll numbers.
Brainster
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Things I read today:
Kamala Harris assures megadonors that she's a capitalist.
Jay Inslee, the candidate who made climate change his issue, is probably going to miss the climate change townhall on CNN due to his miserable polling.
Interesting article on the rather large group of people who say they "don't know" particular candidates (in this case Mayor Pete). They gush a bit about how he's the breakout candidate:
Right now he might be the guy who most outperformed expectations, but he's still stuck in single digits, and he really doesn't have a wide enough lane to run in.
Kamala Harris assures megadonors that she's a capitalist.
Jay Inslee, the candidate who made climate change his issue, is probably going to miss the climate change townhall on CNN due to his miserable polling.
Interesting article on the rather large group of people who say they "don't know" particular candidates (in this case Mayor Pete). They gush a bit about how he's the breakout candidate:
Right now he might be the guy who most outperformed expectations, but he's still stuck in single digits, and he really doesn't have a wide enough lane to run in.
As a non-USAian, reding this thread is hilarious. You all claim to be "rugged individualists", and yet you are all so eager to bend over and take it from anyone who wields even the slightest bit of power. Because you sincerely believe that anyone with power must be better than you simply by definition, and you deserve it.
"Oh no, we can't back Sanders, because he actually wants to take power from the rich (who are much better than us, praise be upon them) and give it to us common people".
Pathetic. You people have no clue what "freedom" even means.
"Oh no, we can't back Sanders, because he actually wants to take power from the rich (who are much better than us, praise be upon them) and give it to us common people".
Pathetic. You people have no clue what "freedom" even means.
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Also, I predict the following: The Dems will run Sundowning Biden, and he will lose. Four more years of Trump.
And the establishment Dem centristst will be responsible.
I'm sure your children and grandchildren will be very proud of you. Well, at least until they die from heat exposure in the upcoming climate apocalypse that the establishment Dems have no interest in stopping. I mean, they need those donor bucks!
And the establishment Dem centristst will be responsible.
I'm sure your children and grandchildren will be very proud of you. Well, at least until they die from heat exposure in the upcoming climate apocalypse that the establishment Dems have no interest in stopping. I mean, they need those donor bucks!
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Skeptic Ginger
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No thanks. If I want to see what someone is on about when they don't post links I shall do so. Here's a suggestion for you, sometimes it's just as easy to search for something as it is to play the 'links' game.
I also suggest you try not to read things into a post that aren't there.
Tero
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Biden would win, I just don't know if he will last more than 4 years. Very likely chance his VP will run the second time.
Belz...
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Biden's kind of likeable but... why does he have so much support?
Perhaps because after the past three years, a known, establishment figure has certain appeal. And because of Obama's popularity. But mainly because he's perceived to have the best chance of winning.
Distracted1
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His support comes from the perception (with some evidence) that he is the most likely Democrat to unseat Trump.
That's pretty much it.
I have to admit, that is a strong motivator for me. There are other Democratic candidates I would prefer to be President, but more important is the candidates ability to actually become President- as that factor renders all others moot.
Belz...
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Sounds rather circular, since he's more likely to unseat Trump only if he has more support.
This.
The Dems are overestimating how much "new" the voter base wants.
He's polling at a double digit, hell near literally double, what his closet challenger is at.
Either listen to your voter base or tell them "no we like this person, that's who we are running, suck it up we know what's best."
TragicMonkey
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Biden's not likeable, he's just perceived as being the bland vanilla option. Not many people would pick vanilla as their own favorite ice cream flavor, but if they were hosting a party and had to have just one flavor of ice cream a lot of people would choose to serve vanilla on the unreasoned assumption that it would be a lowest common denominator and thus acceptable to other people. Nobody, even his own wife, prefers Biden: they are just gambling that enough people will find him sufficiently tolerable.
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